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Aesthetic taste isn’t (inherently) rational? I don’t need a reason to find something ugly, I can just find it ugly.

No one is arguing against that point.

Did you read the subthread you are commenting on? The GP of your post, jatora, was literally arguing against that point. Right there. Is jatora "nobody"? Or are you illiterate (on top of belligerently having no taste)?

Lots of people are arguing against that point.

Demanding a rational explanation for why something is considered tacky is a tacky look

This community is mostly based around sharing ideas, not feelings.

That's a fallacy. This community is rational. Feelings are exactly as rational as ideas. You can use feelings to express irrationality - but as humans, we are 100% composed of feelings. Every rational thought we have is rooted in feelings. It's completely valid and interesting to talk about the feelings of some technology's impact, especially regarding visual art.

Pretty wild equivocation

by redefining "rational" to include anything originating from human biology, you conflate the origin of a thought with its logical validity

While its true that humans are biological entities influenced by emotion, "rationality" refers to a specific process of evaluating claims based on logic and evidence. to claim that feelings are "exactly as rational" as ideas simply because they share a common source in the brain is a category error. it’s like arguing that a car's exhaust is "exactly as functional" as its engine because both are composed of the same metal.

The fact (not feeling) is that most people feel a certain way about AI slop.

If people think a piece of art is AI, the impression is that you didn't spend any amount of time or effort on creating it (even if you did, which, hilarious if true. you could have been making real art). Further, the vocal anti-AI art people who view it as a product created by grinding down billions of person-hours of experience and work into a sort of uniform slurry which is then fed back to them. They do not appreciate this meal.

Half of his recommendations for alternatives take less time to make. You (and the author) are making assumptions about what "people in general" think without any data to back it up. What you've experienced anecdotally in your social circle doesn't necessarily apply everywhere.

Right, you think the people you're communicating with are stupid, and I believe that we should aspire to be better.

I mean, there is rational justification for why people feel the way they do.

It turns into a long tirade about how AI has made the median person's life worse and how they associate generated images with that. It could also be a short tirade.

But the point is more that it is that way, its not important (for the purposes of choosing whether to use AI art in a thing you distribute) _why_ people feel this way though, just that they do.

people can like bad art dude, you do you (it's still bad)

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