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>They both stem from the same LLM root and positioning them as significantly different is weird and unconvincing to me.

It's the difference between caring and not caring.

Caring about what? I could slap an application and say I vibe coded it or I could equally claim I agentically engineered it. No one could tell the difference(if there is any) without seeing the code. The only thing you could say I used an LLM. And that is what is happening. Most of the code that is "engineered" we don't get to see. So who know what is really going on there and what is the actual result?

>Caring about what? I could slap an application and say I vibe coded it or I could equally claim I agentically engineered it. No one could tell the difference(if there is any) without seeing the code.

Caring about the result, whether one "can tell the difference" or not.

Got it. Vibe coding is all about the end result, damned be the way we got there. So I assume agentic engineering must be the opposite here? Don't care what we will cook. If I get a calculator while asking for integrator that is the true agentic engineering.

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