If it's emissions they worry about, then it's anything emitting.
Are they against washing machines too? Or are they just grandfathered in?
Are they against washing machines too? Or are they just grandfathered in?
It's never a binary thing. "Is using energy good or bad?" is a stupid question which can only provide stupid answers. It has to be placed in the context of whether it's proportionate to benefit.
Things which burn a lot of energy for little benefit - and in the case of AI, often negative benefit - end up more towards the "bad".
I hadn't considered that societies rightfully impose standards on these things.
I consider it too early to judge the cost-benefit, but it's fair that others might have already evaluated that. I rescind my comment.
The emissions per kWh of energy used in providing internet downloads probably is similar to that per kWh of energy used for washing clothes.
Yes, and it's none of your business how other people spend their electricity.
Until that's resolved, I don't wish that debt incurred for frivolous uses.
Instead of trying to control other people, why can't you start with yourself? Throw away your phone/computer. Go live in a small hut. Practice what you preach.
You may pay for it, but I and the rest of the planet incur the cost.
I can go live the life of a hermit and the above will still be true.
Your electricity use puts more pollution into our air. It burns our forests. It kills species we all depend on.
No man is an island. Your actions affect others. Just paying your indulgences does not make that basic fact away.
You pay for a portion of it, in money.
The other portion of it is belched up into the atmosphere for future generations to pay.
You are incurring debt and forcing it upon others.
You seem to have no problem whatsoever with using electricity yourself. So when do you get to tell me (or anyone else) how to live? And when does it stop? Btw, this is all bizarrely dramatic since we were talking about small local models anyway.
>future generations
Yeah, and some will also say (using the same arguments) that having children is harmful to the planet and we need "measures" to limit that too.
That does not follow logically for me. As humans we disagree about many things, but we generally agree that things that we do often affect others, so one way or another, we need to come together and decide which things are agreed to be acceptable and which things are not.