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China are cheating by using data obtained without permission to train their models in an evil commie way!
They should have done what the US did instead and trained models on data obtained without permission in a fair and freedum way!
> Where are the Chinese models that are blowing US ones out of the water?
Kimi2 blows every US model out of the water in any comparison that includes both costs and performance.
A lot of people are slowly realizing the moat of 1T closed source models is gone as of the last few weeks. It's going to change the industry. April was a huge month for open models, it'll be curious to see if that continues.
This Mistral submission is another nail in the coffin.
Based on benchmarks which don’t mean that much these days.
> models is gone as of the last few weeks.
Yes, that’s exactly what people were saying after every major release for the past year or so. It’s always a couple of weeks away
I think you should check your notes. The likes of Kimi K2 thinking shows up as high as the second best general purpose model currently in existence. It seems they compete just fine.
If you believe "distilling" is all it takes to put together a model at the top of any synthetic benchmark then I wonder what you would have to say about all US models that greatly underperform in comparison and still manage to be used extensively in professional settings.
But your argument is an emotional one and not rarional, isn't it?
According to benchmarks which are gamed to the extreme these days. Trusting them blindly isn’t exactly rational either. They don’t necessarily translate that well to real world tasks
It’s obviously not “distilling” as such but there are reasons why Chinnese models are consistently several months behind OpenAI/Antropic