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Just please don't start any wars that mess up the global economy like you just did. Thanks.
> So no more US military bases in Europe then?
Fine. If the US wants to lose that, it's collateral to the US's political changes. It should have been obvious that this was a consequence, and one bad for the USA - e.g. it's much harder to fly aircraft from USA to middle east without refuelling bases in Europe.
> No more trade with a market of 500 million people?
The EU is always willing to trade, and negotiate durable terms. The impediments to that are on the US side. "no more trade" is an exaggeration of course, but the US's actions will limit trade.
> No more cooperation on science and research?
How much science and research is going to happen in the US in the near future? I'm told that it's not a growth area. The EU and others are going to have to step up here, take in researchers, develop vaccines etc.
> Nothing of the current US isolationism makes any goddamn longterm sense for the US.
Agreed, no notes.
> Europe and the rest of the world will be fine, mostly.
The current petrochemical price shock seems like it will be not fine for Europe and the rest of the world. And they will know who to blame. The silver lining is that it helps make the case for solar and renewables, and accelerate the transition away from fossil fuels.
Does that mean ceasing to use Europe as a strike base for the middle east?
But otherwise? All of this is stupid. USA always warmongered around everywhere and it gave it a lot of power, petrodollar and control. Its very weird that the USA Strategy is now getting dismanteld like this.
I can only assume its the orange clown who either thinks very ignorant or only for his own interest and gets pushed from Putin to play this game.
I don't mind though, Putin showed how shit his army is and germany/europe knows how to make weapons. Always have
- No more soft power
- Massively reduced capability to strike the Middle East
- Europe dumping US bonds
- Europe reducing dependence on the USD
- No ability to restrain Europe from arming
- No one would trust the US again - remember, the USA has had security guarantees with Ukraine long before this mess.
There is a lot to be said about this attitude of "we are doing Europe a favour" idiocy, it's reminiscent of the Bush era jingoism that I have noticed a resurgence of since Trump's second term, especially since the war with Iran.
The USA would be doing the USA a favour if they keep doing what they have been doing in Europe since the end of WWII. It's NOT bad for the USA. Europe is under the USA's thumb as a result of NATO.
Europe is in for a lot of short term pain as a result of the Ukraine and blockade of the Strait.
I also firmly believe (controversial I am aware) a desperate Europe will 100% throw Ukraine to the wolves and make peace with Russia for their energy, and what then?
Europe is bigger than US, if US loses (actually lost) all allies its just <5% of global population, against remaining 95%. We can collectively ditch SWIFT, petro dollars and so on that your ancestors spent their lives building to bring you where you are now, and then you will be alone against China (and russia, your forever mortal enemy). Good luck.
We are not complaining, this is good for us long term. I don't think its so good for you compared to where you are now though.