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After so many years of EU countries talking, how much has Microsoft's top and bottom line been affected?

We move slow. But the clima for change is here now, it's been brewing for a decade or so. Expect Europe to not use more money on US services the next two decade. So with inflation you will really see a significant decline. My 5 cents

Switzerland is not in the EU. That said, if their goal is to get off US big-tech, I feel they're left with Apple for hardware and Google for software, realistically.

Even North Korea has it's own OS, network and application suite...

Switzerland could totally be fully computer-independant if they wanted to be.

What? There's loads of hardware vendors out there. And I'd throw in Linux over google and apple.

I'm still fascinated that Ukraine has been going on since 2014 and the EU has spent more time and air trying to go after US industries than Russian ones or Chinese. You'd think the US had actually captured Greenland.

Anyway I get it - just, odd to think about. Passion accounts for a lot.

You kidding?

Russian anything is completely off the table in europe..

There’s no discussion because it’s hard to discuss the absolute nothing that is happening.

The Russian oil ban only occurred 8 years after the start of this. 2022. Russia had already taken European land for 8 years prior firmly backed by China. I won't even get into the Russian oil hair-pinning back to Europe via 3rd parties.

Again - all this action is within 1 and change years of Trump. It's a fairly visible difference in reaction. I just find it weird, that's all.

I last saw a psychology thing on TV about people reserving theur strong reaction to the second severe transgression. Bad guys get 1 abuse for free, modulo some stern looks and grumbling. Second time, the big hit comes. The number of transgressions is a more important fact than the time or size.

There is some truth to this, once you look at it. So Russia took Crimea as first abuse, and got some survivable sanctions. Then they hit Ukraine a second time.

Trump, well, it is hit after hit after hit. Liberation day, ICC, threatening greenland, backstabbing Ukraine, Iran. And we're not even halfway his term, and we got proof from the last 2 Republican presidencys that this is no outlayer.

None of them care about Microsoft's shareholder value

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