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Curious name choice, that's clearly encumbered by other trademarks.

Also, my impression is: yay another AI front-end. What does this one differently that the other thirteen in a dozen don't?

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> What does this one differently that the other thirteen in a dozen don't?

Mozilla's a lot more trustworthy with privacy and data, and they're unlikely to sell the project to someone who only wants to stuff it full of malware/adware/crypto stuff - or do it themselves.

I'm somewhat a fan of Mozilla, but their weak governance with regards to actual plans for the future, a couple of questionable partnerships, and the graveyard of products makes it hard to trust based on a 15+ year-old reputation. Would love to see where Mozilla has meaningfully contributed to the modern tech space (things we all actually use, not Mozilla versions of more popular apps/tools)

But despite that, Mozilla is still far more trustworthy than virtually everybody else. Who would you trust more? I imagine it's a very short list. Which is a sad state of affairs.

I think it's also telling that when asked for Mozilla's contributions, the only reply was "but everyone else is worse!".

>Who would you trust more?

Nobody I'd mention on Hacker News!

I worked in Mozilla previously for like 5-6 years. I think the supporter of Mozilla is a lot more trustworthy with privacy and data, but not Mozilla itself... I think they claiming that they do this and do that, but actually speak louder than action. My personal takes from the upper management is also not that good.

If you were not working with Mozilla Asian area, you know far too less. They had a browser in China that redirect to different website for profit before every connection and some affiliation. By doing so, is it privacy or not? Oh, look at Mozilla Japan volunteers, they shut everything up because things went wrong.

This Mozilla?[1] The company whose 85% of revenue depends on an adtech giant?

They're certainly doing better than others in this space, but their track record does not inspire confidence for anyone concerned about their privacy and data.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla#Controversies

that is the firefox groupn not thunderbird. Diff bro

Hmyeah but many others like openwebui are self-hosted and open-source so it's not really like they are untrustworthy.

How much of that privacy matters when you're connecting it to third-party agents/models?

Yeah. Mozilla openly state that they DO sell your data.

Are they allowed to reuse Thunderbolt when it's already taken in the same industry?

They have enough money for a legal dept. so I imagine so. But it's a confusing choice IMO. Not just because thunderbolt but also because thunderbird as someone else pointed out. But maybe they are trying to make thunder their 'thing', like apple puts an 'i' in front of everything?

Coming soon the browser rebrand to Thunderfox! :)

Very happy to update to Thunderfox.

...and also differs in just three characters from another Mozilla product.

"I'm using Mozilla Thunderbolt."

"Huh, do you mean Thunderbird?"

"No, Thunderbolt!"

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