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The ADL is not a reliable source on this, many other anti-semitism researchers and organizations stated it's a clear sieg heil.

ADL is not concerned with anti-semitism anymore, they'renonly concerned about silencing xriticism of Israel. This became clear when they updated their definition of anti-semitism to include anti-zionism and opposition to Israel. They have lost all credibility.

And AFD is most definitely a nazi party. Just because there are less polished nazi parties as well does not make them non-nazis. They have an ethnonationalist agenda, focusing on German ethnicity as the basis around which to build the German nation state. Contrast this with civic nationalism, the non-nazi liberal take on nation states, in which citizenship is based on a cultural identity and belonging, not your Germanic descent.

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Anti-zionism is anti-antisemitism 99% of time. The desire to destroy Israel (as opposed to literally any other country) is rooted in hatred for Jews.

>And AFD is most definitely a nazi party. Just because there are less polished nazi parties as well does not make them non-nazis. They have an ethnonationalist agenda, focusing on German ethnicity as the basis around which to build the German nation state. Contrast this with civic nationalism, the non-nazi liberal take on nation states, in which citizenship is based on a cultural identity and belonging, not your Germanic descent.

The AFD is actually rather moderate. They want mass deportations for unassimilated migrants, i.e. people who don't speak German, don't work, commit crimes, etc. What's actually radical is the idea that you can import those with no connection to Europe and suddenly they are just as European as anyone else because you gave them citizenship.

> They want mass deportations for unassimilated migrants, i.e. people who don't speak German, don't work, commit crimes, etc.

Indeed, wish we could do the same with insular Jewish communities in the northeastern US that siphon off welfare while running fraudulent charities that are basically a way to siphon money from unexpected natives across the country.

I assume you mean the Haredi? I have never heard of them running fake charities but a lot of them go on welfare (in Israel). To be honest, most Israelis don't like them either. But I think the answer is cut off the welfare and force them to get jobs.

Ok, so you're a far-right zionist then.

And on a rational note, you're just writing up an army of strawmen to dunk on, and your arguments are not answering mine, they're nothing but rhetoric.

I don't think I can convince you. I hope some day you realize you're on the wrong side of history.

Or maybe you could just take off the mask fully and admit you're a racist. That would be preferable to this pathetic "centrist" roleplay.

LOL, when will you realize there is no arc of the moral universe; there is no "right" or "wrong" side to history. There is only what happens. So kick and scream about how much you hate Jews (Oh, sorry "Zionists"), but we're not going anywhere.

You seem to have taken the mask off, good for you!

I'm just mocking you.

I <3 israel

Yes, I like you better with the mask off. The dishonesty is gone.

I didn't know supporting Israel is taking off a mask. It's not a dirty secret you need to hide.

Oh no, part of the "just a reasonable centrist" mask is still stuck to your face. It's malfunctioning and reciting talking points. It's out of control!

Quick, you need to do something about it!!!

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