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Comment by bluefirebrand | Hacker News Reader

> If everyone used 100% effective ad blockers, Alphabet (minus GCP) and Meta would not exist

Sounds incredible. How do we make this paradise happen?

Remember the part about all the free-as-in-beer stuff on the internet that people find really useful, and that wouldn't exist if not for ads?

That stuff doesn't depend on Alphabet and Meta specifically. It depends on ads. No ads = no that stuff. Are you happy for it to all disappear?

What about all the free-as-in-beer stuff that doesn't depend on ads? Like, er, this site?

For Meta specifically, what exactly would be so bad about all their stuff disappearing? I can't think of much. Messenger is the only thing of theirs that has any value as far as I can see, and there's many alternatives now.

Demur. RayBan Meta and Oakley Meta glasses are fantastic devices.

I'd rather have five or ten smaller competing companies getting various deals from the glasses manufacturers than a couple huge companies getting them all.

Mostly because I don’t believe anything of value would actually be lost (note you provided no examples and I’m not sure any exist), that also sounds incredible. So again, how do we make this no-ads paradise happen?

I wout be absolutely delighted for it to all disappear and for the internet to go back to being only for enthusiasts again

It's not free, we pay for it with our attention. I'd rather pay with money.

How does my attention, the time I spend reading news.ycombinator.com, pay for the site? I DON'T run an ad blocker, but I am not watching any ads here.

HN regularly runs ads for YC companies. https://news.ycombinator.com/jobguide.html

HN is a recruitment tool for Y Combinator. Someone is paying for it with their attention.

Did you think they are running it out of the goodness of their heart?

The internet worked before everything was plastered with ads.

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