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This other profile is still up:

https://www.forbes.com/profile/delve/

30U30 never ceases to amaze.

I wonder if the kind of personality that gets you on 30U30 correlates with being willing to engage in massive fraud, and being able to get away with it for a minute.

Holmes, SBF, Shkreli, Charlie Javice, Ishan Wahi...

When ambitious competitors who can't accept loss or normalcy enter into a field that's saturated with skilled rule-abiding players, they'll cheat.

Hypercompetitive fields will always surface cheaters given enough time. Then regulations pile on to fight the cheating, which makes it harder for honest people to do the good work.

We do not punish cheaters like these as much as we should.

The 30 Under 30 Fraud Watch

https://30u30.fyi/

You know, after all this time Lucas Duplan doesn't seem so bad. His hubristic sin was posing for a photo burning fake hundred dollar bills. That just seems like a random Tuesday now.

Naming his startup “Clinkle” should have been a crime, though.

That was epicly horrid.

When the stakes are high, non-compliance with the rules or the law might be worth the risk, see professional athletes and drug cheats, right?

Karma and integrity seem to be treated as an overdraft. But these folks are hardly held back by the systems they work in.

"that gets you on", ie. the kind of personality that literally pays & hustles to be featured on such a list to fuel their own ego?

colour me surprised

people still seem to think that forbes scouts the world for the best talents instead of the lists being basically a paid ad

If I remember correctly, you need to be nominated by someone to be considered for the 30U30 list. Some of the people on those lists will literally run their own campaigns to get on the list, meaning that they'll pay people to nominate them, pay PR firms to run stories and campaigns. Other people do seemingly nothing, and just get nominated by legit people that admire them.

So, I'm fairly certain lists like that will attract some amount of unscrupulous narcissists.

Yes? I mean, 30U30 has probably some, let's say, "PR steering" behind it

Not "Pay2Win" but possibly something less involved

Not sure it's exclusively a U30 thing. When it comes to grift and fraud, a well known 79 year old comes to mind.

I'd focus less on the U30 part, and more on the 30U, if that makes sense — the problem is with people who seek that sort of attention (and that 79 year old certainly qualifies as wanting that sort of attention). For those people, their businesses are a means to an end in the most cynical way possible.

Who rapes and bombs schools full of U18 children.

That is just what the O18 want in there. Last one also got their role because that. Doing it in public on camera.

Speak for yourself. I'm O18 and I don't want him in there like you claim to. Most of his base claimed to be anti-pedo until they saw the evidence in the unredacted subset of the Epstein files that Congress legally forced him to release, and now suddenly they're pro-pedo (and pro-war and pro-bombing-schoolchildren). But you be you, and make baseless evidence-free false equivalence accusations against other people to justify the rapes and legally adjudicated sexual assault and pussy grabbing by the guy you as an "O18" claim you want in there.

30 Under 30 to Life

Forbes MOST WANTED

30U30D30

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