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Who cares guys, soon food shortages will start. In Europe they started rationing fuels. In Australia gas stations are out of diesel.

We are trully doomed.

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> In Europe they started rationing fuels

They are rationing in Slovenia to prevent 'gasoline tourism' (people taking advantage of lower taxes), not due to shortages.

far be it for me to question your prophetic capacities. i wonder, do you have any historical examples or logic-based arguments that our doom of nigh?

Oil (diesel), gas and fertilizer is the backbone of the worlds agriculture. With shortages of all 3 the food production goes down dramatically. Even if the war ends today it will take years to bring back production to previous levels. In my opinion the effects will start showing up in food prices in the next few weeks once food producing countries realize the food shortages could happen they will start restricting exports.

A bit tangential: it’s narratives like this which can create sudden crashes on the stock market.

Speculation at some point meets reality. This is when market crashes.

So, your proof is that some dire predictions in the past, about other things, by other people, were sometimes true?

I am not even predicting something.

The global oil & gas supply has been disrupted and cannot recover overnight as actual infrastructure is gone.

Someone will need to reduce consumption.

These are just facts and physics of supply & demand.

We can always debate on who will get hit more or what resources will be affected more.

The problem is your simply extrapolating not taking into account counter measures in whatever form.

I don’t blame you. It’s almost impossible to predict how this will play out.

why are chefs baking bread? there's buildings to construct.

> In Australia gas stations are out of diesel.

This is incorrect.

Not sure why you are getting downvoted. The scariest one is the fertilizer situation which means less productive harvests, which means hunger.

Because it's whataboutism which is basically propaganda. It doesn't add anything to the discussion, and if we put too much emphasis on other unrelated (but still important) issues, the site wouldn't exist at all.

Example: Why are you posting here when you could be solving world hunger? Don't you care about starving children?

Or the angle that most likely never gets discussed such as the potential effects of heavy reliance and overuse of fertilizer being a contributor to pollution than crop yields; I don't have all the sources but here's one I was reading over the weekend:

-- https://ourworldindata.org/excess-fertilizer

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