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Also "ICE separate[s] families" is such a ridiculous mischaracterization it makes me question all their other arguments.

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> ICE separate[s] families" is such a ridiculous mischaracterization

It's accurate. They do separate families. How or why doesn't matter, the fact stands in its own. It's not a "mischaracterization", it's a fact.

If context is irrelevant then every country in Europe already separates families, and thus how can this be a complaint?

Believe it or not, it's possible for more than one person or entity to do something. I know, it's really incredible to think about! John and Bill can both scam Elizabeth, even though they live in different countries!

But apparently I can't complain because they're both criminals and I can only complain about one! It says in the rulebook!

I'm not sure you've quite understood the conversation.

I'm not sure you understand what an objective truth is, so anything else is really irrelevant.

So do the police/courts if your dad goes to jail. It's incidental to their purpose.

"The purpose of a system is what it does"

So... what exactly is your argument here? The children of a man who is convicted and sent to prison should also go to prison, so as to avoid separation? Or that we just don't send men to prison if they have children?

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