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> A powerful company enables genocide in Gaza, helps ICE separate families, and fuels Trump’s war with Iran.

Ah yes, European issues

And then you guys ask why oil is so expensive and where all immigrants comes from.

It's a European issue because we look to the US and now appreciate more than ever the need to introduce barriers to stop temporary fascist governments doing the same permanent damage they have done in the US. Our democratic systems are just as vulnerable to populist leaders taking power. One of those barriers we must erect is the elimination of corporation with unfettered access to institutional data that can be used by fascist governments to maintain or grow their power base.

It's quite odd how Europeans will see and describe themselves only in terms of being a US vassal.

they functionally have been since ww2. why is it odd that they have a clear understanding of their relative position to the hegemonic power?

China's been behind too, but at least they're trying something.

Also "ICE separate[s] families" is such a ridiculous mischaracterization it makes me question all their other arguments.

> ICE separate[s] families" is such a ridiculous mischaracterization

It's accurate. They do separate families. How or why doesn't matter, the fact stands in its own. It's not a "mischaracterization", it's a fact.

If context is irrelevant then every country in Europe already separates families, and thus how can this be a complaint?

Believe it or not, it's possible for more than one person or entity to do something. I know, it's really incredible to think about! John and Bill can both scam Elizabeth, even though they live in different countries!

But apparently I can't complain because they're both criminals and I can only complain about one! It says in the rulebook!

I'm not sure you've quite understood the conversation.

I'm not sure you understand what an objective truth is, so anything else is really irrelevant.

So do the police/courts if your dad goes to jail. It's incidental to their purpose.

"The purpose of a system is what it does"

So... what exactly is your argument here? The children of a man who is convicted and sent to prison should also go to prison, so as to avoid separation? Or that we just don't send men to prison if they have children?

Things Palantir does in other countries is fine cause for not wanting it deployed in your own

Perhaps, but one would think those aren't the prime issues meriting first mention. I went in hoping for details of what Palantir is doing wrong _in Europe_, but all I got was some rallying the base cliches.

We prefer seeing all humans as equal, and not setting their value based on their passports like US does.

Also, shit done elsewhere will be repeated in all other places, no reason to doubt that.

Not yet because they’re not operating in Europe yet.

There are enough far-right (and generally Putin-aligned, like Hungary) forces on the continent that they’d love to feed.

> Not yet because they’re not operating in Europe yet.

They're definitely operating in Europe. They literally have 15 offices scattered around.

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