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> maybe jazzband can infra its way out of those problems

Maybe jazzband can't infra their way out of the problem, but maybe we can create some tools that will help orgs that encounter this problem in future...

... that's a software engineer in me talking. I have no idea how to organize communities, but I may know a thing or two about making software. And when you've got a hammer in your hands everything starts looking like a nail...

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yeah tbqh I think the biggest challenge with tooling on that front is that this really is a problem mostly limited to community projects. The problems jazzband need to solve don't exist nearly as much in a universe where everyone is in a company on some payroll

In most corporate environments while it might make sense to do N of M in the high security case it's not really a thing that people will jump for for the first... uhhh 10k employees of a company's lifetime.

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