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The "Nazi salute" was just a cringy rendition of the "my heart goes out to you" thing. I can find dozens of other famous people doing something similar.
And the AfD isn't a neo-Nazi group.
The interpretation can be doubted, but you have to give credit to Elon Musk for being an actual techno-fascist coming from a family of pro-apartheid racists. Maybe it's not technically a nazi salute, but you can't argue it's not a fascist salute given his political inclinations.
> And the AfD isn't a neo-Nazi group.
Please read up on the AfD. They have nazi references in their propaganda, actual nazis in their ranks, and an actual nazi program. On that last point, when they plan secret meetings for deporting wrong-race german citizens, that's straight out of Hitler's playbook, and was his solution before the "final solution" (mass extermination).
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're simply uninformed and not actually downplaying nazism. Happy to provide sources for a specific point if you can't find any.
It wasn't a Nazi salute, and that should be obvious.
>>I don't see that growing up next to Auschwitz makes you an expert in this area.
Something about being taught about this stuff endlessly at school and seeing it brought up all the time in your immediate neighbourhood makes you recognize when it happens - I guess that's just how it works.
>> what was just an awkward moment
The whole idea that the self-proclaimed "most intelligent man on earth" didn't know what he was doing and it was actually some kind of heart felt awkward gesture is again, dishonest at best.
Okay, you believe what you want, I guess.
> And the AfD isn't a neo-Nazi group.
Uh, huh. Sure.
https://www.cato.org/blog/mueller-report-faqs
https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/
Where is all that "ample evidence" that Adam Schiff, as chair House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, repeatedly claimed to have seen that provided Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election? He has seen it all, it's an open and shut case, so why did he go so quiet about it? Did Putin get to him too?
Obviously he has nothing and never did.
I've pressed people for specifics about this, and the only "evidence" they have been able to provide is Trump's "Russia if you're listening" speech, which is an obvious joke.
You absolutely did not read the report, you listened to Barr’s brief lie about what was in it. There were endless examples of collusion and people in Trump’s inner circle found guilty of collaborating with the Russian government.
Let me guess, you also think Paul Manafort did nothing wrong?
https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigati...
I did.
> There were endless examples of collusion and people in Trump’s inner circle found guilty of collaborating with the Russian government.
For which apparently Mueller's team was incapable of using to substantiate any such charges, and apparently Adam Schiff seems to have lost all that evidence he lied about seeing.
The only reasonable explanation is obviously that Trump colluded with Putin to hack Mueller and Schiff, right?
> Let me guess, you also think Paul Manafort did nothing wrong?
A person who isn't called Donald Trump was found guilty of charges that did not include colluding with Putin to hack the election, but relating to to tax evasion and failing to register as an agent working for Ukraine, starting a decade before Trump's campaign started? No I don't think he did nothing wrong and never claimed he did. Nice strawman though, typical of conspiracy theorist rantings.
> The United States on Thursday temporarily lifted sanctions on Russian oil that is currently at sea
This is weird phrasing, and for a reason. Oil at sea has typically already been sold! Lifting sanctions on it does practically nothing.
with "currently stranded at sea" being one of those things nobody can prove either way with shadow fleet.
This is simply wrong. The shadow fleet ships still exist in the physical realm and can be observed using eyeballs and other pieces of equipment.
So no. Not proved wrong in my opinion.
Did Biden collude with Putin by not launching nuclear attack against Russia when he was President?
Did Obama collude with Putin when he secretly transmitted a promise to be "more flexible" with him after his election presumably in return for unspecified favors, then later meekly capitulating to Putin's annexation of Crimea?
Just because somebody does not take the most drastic or damaging action they possibly can against another, does not mean they are colluding with them or sympathizing with them. What an infantile worldview.
Musk replied directly to that post: “You are a traitor.”
Kelly fired back the next day: “Traitor? Elon, if you don’t understand that defending freedom is a basic tenet of what makes America great and keeps us safe, maybe you should leave it to those of us who do.”
Musk later doubled down in media appearances, stating that putting “the interests of another country above America” makes someone a traitor.
I don't see Musk making those statement about US helping the interest of other countries.
It seems like stopping Russia from being an aggressor is in the direct interest of the US. Why would Musk think otherwise?
He is entitled to his own opinions.
From a business perspective Russia is a bigger market than Ukraine for Starlink. And since have no political color, it makes sense for him to not be pro-Ukraine that much.
And lastly, what is in the interest of the state is not neccesarily in the interest of people and vice-versa.