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And even if it does, the mods don't have real control to moderate communities either, so you get the worst of both worlds. I don't go to most queer reddit communities anymore because a lot of them have bots that downvote trans-positive posts, even if the community is specifically meant to be inclusive. There's nothing to couple active participation to voting weight or anything of that kind and voting is not considered "brigading" by reddit if the coordination happens off-site (at least not in a way that'd lead to any enforcement action).

It's makes a great propaganda machine though, given humans have a tendency to measure their own opinions on social clues.

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I still haven't been able to figure out how to make an account without it being immediately shadowbanned or normalbanned. Tried again the other day, it was something in between where logged-out users could see it was banned but I couldn't.

You need to ditch and replace all your devices and acquire a new phone number. I'm serious. Virtually all large websites these days employ a lot of fingerprinting and persistence technologies.

And yes, ditch them. Even well over a decade ago, Wikipedia of all places already employed IP address matching to link sockpuppet accounts. You must be extremely careful of never using any device that was associated with your old accounts on the same network as the devices associated with your new account. And that includes devices only seen by association.

> and acquire a new phone number

> Wikipedia of all places already employed IP address matching to link sockpuppet accounts

That’s… well, that’s just not how tcp/ip works. Your phone number has nothing to do with your device IP…

It does when your phone number is used for 2fa in a session running on tcp/ip

Phone numbers are available to many apps if they target older SDK versions and serve as an additional unique identifier.

It happens to all new accounts. It's known that new account are shadowbanned almost everywhere until they are 30 days old and farmed some karma on a very small set of subreddits that don't shadowban new accounts. It's shocking they ever get any new users, really; as far as a non-technical new user knows, nobody ever reads their comments for some reason.

It's full of bot slop pushing political propaganda, it's possible those bot farms have monetary agreements with Reddit to allow them to create accounts.

How contagious is it? Can I get other people banned from Reddit by logging into my instantly banned account on their wifi network?

Not that contagious, I'm afraid.

My boss uses Reddit some. I'm banned. At the shop, we use the same IP address (and we do not use ipv6 there).

I tried to log in with a ~10-year-old account that I'd never commented with. A perfect Beetlejuicing moment had arrived and I just wanted to play the game with a short, snarky comment.

It logged in fine, and then: Insta-ban, just like that. (Maybe I should have used a new browser on a new network that I've never used before, but whatever -- nothing of value was lost here.)

Meanwhile, the boss man's access continued unimpeded; this suggests that it is a rather targeted contagion.

And it seems to follow the systems, not the networks.

(If anyone wants banned, just let me know. I seem to have a well-poisoned system to play with.)

If you have some free time you could try making a GDPR request for explanation of automated processing.

Your concept is certainly is interesting to think about, and I think that is a clever approach with a high cromulence quotient. I like it quite a lot.

But in this world, the result of the approach would have no value to me. At the end of the day, Reddit is terrible. For me from my perspective, it can never be anything other than terrible. Studying its ways cannot redeem it, nor improve my life in any way. Seriously, fuck those guys.

So while I appreciate the suggestion, I must respectfully decline.

(Unless, of course, the result would be useful for others such as yourself. If that is the case then let me know and I may elect to spend some time on it.)

Just don't use apps. Then the only association is a discardable cookie and IP.

There’s also browser fingerprinting

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