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It might be a nazi bar, but it's a high-class fancy kind of nazi bar like you'd find on the Hindenburg, and that's more important.

Does that mean we get to throw the Nazis out the Hindenburg's window, cos they lack tickets?

Dr.Jones (either one) is too uncouth to be allowed in here.

Jesus...

He is not wrong here dang and you are keen to scold one side of the bar more than the other in the last few months. This thread is a good example there wasn't even anything in the comments and it got a sticky real quick.

I come to HN because I don't want to read reddit-tier comments like the above.

The grandparent comment is from someone that has been on this site almost since the beginning. Far longer than you. They might have insights about the community that you do not.

That's even worse, they should know better

Integrity means understanding when your community if falling into the snares of its own rules. What's the point of formal, nuanced discussion if it's used to empower hate?

I agree. For whatever reason, whether it is a change in community sentiment or something else, I get downvotes talking about this. I can't think of a more useless thing to care about. Even if I cared, I couldn't think of a better way to spend accrued social capital.

The hold that scumbags - influencers, political operatives, narcissists with Messiah complexes - have taken over young men, particularly those inclined to go into the software field, is alarming.

Various former founding members of PayPal, leaders of the companies they've founded subsequently, member of A16Z and some opportunists and hangers on to these wealthier individuals who are beneath the dignity of mentioning separately - they have lost their moral and ethical moorings in the course of accumulating massive wealth and they are corrupting others in doing it.

Even modest startup incubators are be obsequious to the wealth and power of these people in the field and decided that money is more important than morality. Or at the very least there is no pretense of it now.

Not true in general on HN about one side only; it happens to all sides imho. But if you wanted to measure, you would have to normalize by the total number of occurrences on each side, and there is a lot of passive aggressive wording so the measurement would be easy to do badly.

To the extent that discussion of discussion is considered boring, perhaps this will get shut down too, but I think it was important to counter your claim.

I'm not using surprised by the moderation direction here (formality above all). But stubs tend to be rare and I've never seen a stub develop over 2 top level comments. Even the most blatantly political posts don't get such treatment (or it takes a long time do so).

I'm sure it's common for dead flagged posts, but it seems this story was too significant to pull over that smoke screen this time.

We're sadly well past friends of friends of friends coming in. At some point the only thing you can do as a non-bartender is to simply leave and never come back.

I don't want to say we're at that point just yet. But it's something that's been gnawing at me for a while now. I've certainly been disillusioned of this being a progressive tech hub interested in bettering humanity.

Bettering humanity is a pretty good two word summary of what should be the meaning of life and everyone’s goal. Please don’t disengage.

>Please don’t disengage.

No worries. I was more referring to this community rather than this society. There are plenty of other "bars" on the internet to choose from.

You entirely missed the point. Please don’t disengage from those bars you perceive to be tainted in some way.

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