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Thank you. I’m constantly baffled by the terrible quality of Logitech’s software. Such great hardware and such horrible software. Very much needed an oss alternative.

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I'm also baffled by the quality of their hardware, their mice are all coated in a type of rubber that turns to goop after a few years.

I wish products would just give up on these rubberised materials. They always turn to goop over time. Unless it’s a part designed to be easily user replaced, just stick to hard plastic.

Huh. Haven't experienced that myself, having used a Master MX for several years (now in use by my wife), a VX Revolution for a few years before that (now my son's backpack mouse), and a Master MX Vertical most recently. My son has gone through several other Logi mice as his primary mice, too, but they've died of either worn out switches or feet (he's an avid gamer).

Not trying to invalidate your experience -- I've see with my own eyes a similar thing happen with rubberized coatings on laptops & keyboard wrist rests (other's not my own).

Just putting it out there that it's by no means the universal experience.

They just don't make mice like they used to. I've been playing games with my intellimouse for the better part of 30 years. Baffles me when I hear of people blowing through several mice.

I have wondered if my skin oils are somehow naturally more caustic than average.

I think they fixed it in their latest MX4, it's silicone (I think?) now instead of rubber.

https://www.reddit.com/r/logitech/comments/1nq2luo/got_the_m...

Damn, I replaced my MX2 with an MX3 fairly recently...

I had issues during COVID. The hand sanitizer and Hand Moisturizer seemed to be a brutal combom on my work MX mice.

Everyone had the horrid goop issue as well, you're not mad.

Likely to be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyurethane#Hydrolysis_and_bi...

I use the g305, and have to replace it roughly once a year because the scroll button eventually stops working. I've been through 5-6 of them. Regularly on sale for around $25.

Wish I could find a better mouse I like as much as this one that I didn't need to pay a yearly subscription for. It's just the right size, lightweight, wireless, and being able to store the customizations to on board memory is nice.

I just bind a different button for scroll. I use draftinf software where middle mouse pans and it wears after 2 to 3 months

humans are naturally slimy. Anything you touch for 8h/day will be slimy in turn. Some of us are slimier than others.

not unique to logitech. This happens with my steelseries mice too. I have to clean them with alcohol or something.

> Such great hardware

Every other mouse brand I've used (razer, hyperx, reddragon, steelseries) has outlasted my logitech-G mice, and felt noticeably better built. Their keyboards are the most generic, nothing-special keyboards for any company of that size. They don't innovate.

I will never buy a logitech mouse/keyboard ever, especially with the options we have today.

It's so tiring hearing people praise their hardware when they've literally been outcompeted for a decade at this point. Their webcams, and other niche stuff (like flight sticks) may be fine, but their mice/keyboard are below average.

Interesting! Is there a good, ergonomic mouse that completes with Logitech's MX? I did hear they wear off quickly, which is why I never bought one, but I also never bothered to check for alternatives since everyone said MX is best by far.

I personally don't enjoy most ergonomic mice, almost entirely because of the weight.

I used to be the type of person that liked mice with >3 side buttons and programmable firmware and all that, with a shape that fit my hand, but lately I'm of the mindset that anything that can be done with a keyboard (or voice) should just be done on the keyboard.

I enjoy lightweight gaming-focused mice. Just anything cheap and light, and on the go, I just use my trackpad. Absolutely no reason to spend 90 bucks on a mouse unless you do most of your work on a mouse.

Fair enough! Thanks for your take.

Nobody makes thumb trackballs as good as Logitech, or at least not anymore. And I have no complaints about the quality. I have three MX Ergos, replacing my previous Logitech trackballs that all lasted well over 10 years of daily use (the left click switches started getting iffy, but that's probably fixable, so I kept them).

I barely ever hear someone complain about the hardware quality of Logitech mice and keyboards, even before considering how much of them there are compared to Keychrons, Duckys, or all the gamer brands.

The MX Ergo form factor is the best, by the way. Few people go back to pushy-pully mice after they got a taste of how fast and precise they can be with a thumb trackball. I always find it interesting where I see them on TV or YouTube: medical laboratories, architectural offices, movie studios... and Louis Rossmann's desk. I've been using them since the 90s and they probably were an unfair advantage in FPS LAN parties =D

Elecom gives them a run for their money thumb ball wise in my experience.

Thats funny. I have a mx master 3 and its handsdown the best workmouse i have ever had. I work in strange places and the mouse works on every surface. Even glass, mirrors, server doors, skin, pants. I hate the app with a passion and use BTT.

I've been using my MX518 for 15 years. I have several stocked away when this dies.

That's one from the good old days. I was a full on logitech fan back then too, it's sad what the company has turned into.

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