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A truly lean team (say, <=5 people and limited project scope) should be able to live off their code forge's free CI/CD minutes, or whatever is included in the basic tier they're running. Just run the suite on a schedule against trunk instead of on every PR.

If not, then that's a good signal they should invest more into their CI/CD setup, and like you said it's not necessarily a huge investment, but it can be a barrier depending on skills.

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What skill? You can get Jenkins running in afternoon.

If you can't set up CI/CD you're not qualified to program anything

That's a bit harsh, depending on how a person developed or where they worked they may not have had exposure to other facets beyond basic development. Beyond that, it might as well be magic. They'll have to figure out how to provision a VM, ssh into it & lock all the proverbial doors first. Without going into managing it with IaC tools like Terraform, Ansible, Packer, etc.

> That's a bit harsh, depending on how a person developed or where they worked they may not have had exposure to other facets beyond basic development. Beyond that, it might as well be magic.

...so? You sit your ass down and learn. It might take a bit longer if you never touched shell but it's far easier than anything actual programming deals with, especially currently with set of ready or near ready recipes for every environment.

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