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What, exactly, is sandboxed Google play prevented from accessing? Can I feed it a fake location or disable location access? Is it prevented from running in the background 24/7? Can I force it and just it through a VPN? Or is it just blocked from accessing apps and files that aren't in the sandbox? There are many such questions and all could be considered "sandbox".

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Sandboxed Google Play receives no special access at all, so you can deny it all permissions if you want, but you should grant network (and maybe notifications) permission for it to actually function.

https://grapheneos.org/features#sandboxed-google-play

Well that's a bit misleading answer. Some apps refuse to work if G services are disabled, so they clearly communicate with them. It would be nice to know what exactly G learned about the phone through those "sandboxed" apps.

It's an Android service. But unlike on regular Android where Google play services have hard-coded special permissions, on Graphene it is an ordinary android service with all the same strict rules applying to it, as to any other service you could write.

So an application of course can use other android services if it declared that, that's why it can see whether it's running or not. But you are in full control whether google play services is installed, and what it can use.

Of course this may break certain apps (Google maps location sharing will probably not work with the location permission denied for play services), which may or may not degrade gracefully.

I denied the contacts permission to the Play Services. It just shows a notification when it tries to access them, which is actually not common at all.

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