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> They are devastated but they are were totally quiet on the unarmed thirty thousands+ protesters the islamist iranian regime killed in a matter of days a few weeks ago.
One person's protestor is another's insurrectionist.
See also the folks on January 6: (now-pardoned) patriots trying to 'stop the steal', or crazies trying to overthrow the government?
Were the Jan6ers good guys or bad guys? Did they deserve to get punished? (Trump didn't/doesn't think so, which is why he pardoned them; Pence may have a different opinion.)
The fact that different countries have different punishments for the same crime is a cultural artefact. The fact that you find it unacceptable is personal opinion. In Singapore drug use (not even distribution) is punishable by up to 10 years in prison:
* https://www.cnb.gov.sg/singapore-drug-situation/misuse-of-dr...
Too much? Too little?
One can say that a person did bad things, but the punishment was inappropriate in a particular case, but some kind of punishment was needed.
Were the Iranian protestors/insurrectionists guilty of crimes? Did they deserve some kind of punishment?
The IRGC mass killing of protesters was evil. Objectively so. Anyone thinking otherwise is part of the problem.
You should read up on "Terrorists or Freedom Fighters":
* https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/terroris...
* https://harvardlawreview.org/forum/no-volume/on-terrorists-a...
This is done by diaspora lead by US, they started destroying public resources first and created public unrest on top of falling Rial due to sanctions, this lead the govt take matters in to their hands. Cunning US indeed, always playing cheap tricks.
US is a regime too, world largest one, with minions everywhere. They murdered around 1 million just in Iraq. This war is not only about nukes but also oil and trade routes. Iran did not try to spread Islamic in the west, they do not want to either.
My point is US should not try to interfere with other countries internal matters. International threats should be dealt with treaties.
Yeah but a better majority doesn't want Evangelicalism in USA, USA used to have a culture /s
The Supreme Leader before Khamenei preached that virgins need to be raped before execution so that they can't go to heaven. Sick people following a sick religion where their made up version of god would judge children based on if they were raped.
Let's see what happen when they start bombing Greenland.
I hate violence, but US have too much power, they are in this war for their benefit. Looting others resources as usual.
So what?
It doesn't matter whether it suits you nor I. You calling them out has zero effect other than making you feel righteous. They don't hear you and even if they did they do not care a whit what you think.
They believe, with utter conviction, that martyrdom in service of Islam will be rewarded in the "hereafter". Their holy book tells them this explicitly. And there are millions of them.
Hence my comment.
That 30k number came from the same source the WMDs did - paid informants who knew exactly what they were being paid to deliver.
Same sales pitch, different war.
The standards of evidence some people will accept when America is hell bent on starting a war is so low it blows my mind.
Ive noticed that these people who try to guilt trip meek liberals over the alleged deaths of 30,000 people in Iran used to sell a war of aggression will almost always downplay or try to sow doubt about the genocide in gaza which america supported.
It's very remarkably similar to the way some of the most extreme racists on the planet used to try and guilt trip liberals by accusing them of being anti semitic.
The Iran official number was still 3,117.
It’s not that crazy to think the number is closer to 30k than to this.
Trump and Israel are not backing nonviolent protestors in Iran. Theyre hell bent on provoking a civil war and are quite open about it.
Plenty of video of evidence of protestor violence if you care to look.
Meanwhile team genocide are trying to run a guilt trip on the rest of us
Because we care less about a crackdown on protestors by another government than we do a fully fledged genocide aided and abetted by our own.
(Ultranationalist/reactionary states like Iran and Israel love this kind of absolute framing, because it allows the state to ratchet, rather than de-escalate, cycles of violence.)
It was the same shit back when they used to accuse meek liberals of being antisemitic for criticizing some of the most extreme racists on planet earth.
It doesnt matter how Iran frames things. This isnt a "both sides" issue. Youll only get iran's opinion if you read presstv, they dont flood english speaking forums.
(I get Iran's opinion because I have Iranian friends.)