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Its called corporatism and is a part of classical fascism.

Isn’t there some kind of term for when the government controls the means of production. I’ll think about it. It’s one of those terms that’s been thrown around so loosely by this regime you knew they were going there.

It's a core part of fascism.

I don't see a good reason to downvote you, though that's a pattern here these days. But I do have a question about your statement. This move certainly has the hallmarks of fascism. But how is it corporatism when it's the elected government that's trying to punish a corporation? Granted that this regime is deep in the pockets of the corporations and billionaires. But it looks like they would have spared Anthropic if they capitulated to the regime's demands and bent their back over. This seems more like retribution for refusal of loyalty rather than corporate sabotage.

> But it looks like they would have spared Anthropic if they capitulated to the regime's demands and bent their back over.

Yeah dude, that's the point.

That's the opposite of corporatism. Corporatism would be if the corporations made demands of the government, and the government bent over backwards.

The US government has lots of corporatism, but this isn't an example of that.

There are always winners and losers in political discussions not every corporation could have control over decision making. But that doesn't mean companies aren't playing a major rool in decisions. I'd imagine companies owned by Larry Ellison (fox and soon cnn) have a much larger role in decision making and agenda setting that most people are comfortable with.

Corporatism/corporatocracy is about representative groups from industries being embedded in the state and their interests shaping state policy.

The current US administration's relationships with corporations is more seeking to maximise how much bribe money it can extract from them, whilst undermining them with counterproductive policies no matter how big the tax breaks are.

I'm not sure I fully understood your point, but about the question "how fascism if elected?": the Nazi Party won (i.e., it was the most voted party) in multiple elections in the late 20s/early 30s.

I apologize if I wasn't clear enough. I wasn't asking how it can be fascism if the government is elected. I'm aware of the answer to that.

I was asking how an (elected fascist) government can be corporatist, if they are fighting a corporation. Doesn't a corporatist government fight for the corporations? From the answers I see, this government is partially corporatist. They'll fight smaller corporations if the latter don't fall in line.

*capitalism ftfy

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