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Hijacking the thread a bit here. Foundation (http://foundation.zurb.com) also released 3.2 on October 26th:

http://foundation.zurb.com/docs/changelog.php

It's kind of bad PR for Foundation junkies to try to ride on Bootstrap's coattails every time there's a Bootstrap thread on HN. I get that there's bad blood there, but it really makes the Foundation guys look desperate when you beg for attention like this.

Fair enough. Zurb isn't desperate for HN traffic or users. It's only fair that some of the other equally good frameworks get due attention.

http://www.getskeleton.com/

http://gumbyframework.com/

http://titanthemes.com/titan-framework-a-css-framework-for-r...

http://www.angrycreative.se/wordpress/plugins/less-framework...

" Zurb isn't desperate for HN traffic or users"

Then why are you posting on a completely un-related post for Bootstrap, instead of letting it stand on it's own merits?

That's what a separate thread would be for.

Perhaps I should have worded it differently then. My goal was simply to provide other relevant alternatives to bootstrap.

"Then why are you posting on a completely un-related post for Bootstrap, instead of letting it stand on it's own merits?"

Actually, other popular css frameworks highlighting responsive design are very relevant to Bootstrap. Normally, one could let these frameworks stand on their own merits, but it seems that any bootstrap post on HN hops the popularity train right to the front page.

"...that any bootstrap post on HN hops the popularity train right to the front page...."

Doesn't mean you should jump on someone else' headline to promote Foundation. That's rude.

Make you own thread. If it isn't as "popular", that's your problem.

Disagree - there is nothing rude about this. The thread is not "someone else's" - it exists to benefit the community. I, and others, found these additional leads useful.

I found the other examples very useful as well.

I like it when someone lists alternatives to the current "marketing leader".

I also like the energy of foundation for asserting itself, especially if other users follow on to confirm foundation's quality! It's good for end users and it gets the best product into the spotlight!

Don't give Bootstrap that much credit. The only reason it got popular is due to riding on the coattails of Twitter. If something is a better project (in which I believe Foundation is having used it and been to a couple Zurb talks), it should absolutely get mentioned.

Also, I'm wondering why you're instigating something occluding to "bad blood". Are you serious? They are CSS frameworks being open sourced. This isn't Apple vs. Samsung.

Funny how you're ridiculing options but it looks like you're new here so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Upvoted. Contrary to others's ocd opinions, I have no problem with you posting this. I wasn't aware Foundation had gotten an update recently, nice to know. And while this thread is about Bootstrap, they're the two most sophisticated frontend frameworks available right now, so it's not totally unrelated.

Agreed. Competition is obviously beneficial. I appreciated the links to other front end frameworks as well. Being able to compare features and basic tenants across the two popular frameworks was a mini education and helpful.

I didn't know either, I don't mind comments like this if they are actually relevant.

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