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Comment by luckylion | Hacker News Reader

Somebody who a) directs DDOS attacks and b) abuses random visitors' browser for those DDOS attacks is never the victim.

You don't know their motives for running their site, but you do get a clear message about their character by observing their actions, and you'd do well to listen to that message.

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The character is completely irrelevant to whether they are a victim of doxxing.

They might be the worst person ever but that doesn't matter. People can be good and bad, sometimes the victim sometimes the perpetrator.

Is it morally wrong to doxx someone and cause them to go to jail because they are running an archive website? Yes. It is. It doesn't matter who the person is. It does not matter what their motivations are.

There are plenty of cases where the operator of archive.today refused to take down archives of pages with people's identifying information, so it's a huge double standard for them to insist on others to not look into their identity using public information.

So, we are back at eye for eye and tooth for tooth?

No. I literally said

> I don't think the DDOSing is a very good method for fighting back

I am really shocked by the conditional empathy people here are showing. The doxxing isn't less bad just because the reaction to it is bad.

Its like justifying bullying because the person "deserves" it.

If the reaction is disproportional (like in this case), you stop being right even if you were initially right.

That some messed up morality. If you are right you are right.

Now what you do in reaction might be legally and morally wrong and maybe you need to be punished for that. But that doesn't negate the injustice you suffered. Two wrongs make... two wrongs. One does not negate the other.

Irrelevant to a determination of fact, yes. But very relevant to the question of whether or not I care about any of this. Bad thing happened to bad person, lots of drama ensued, come rubberneck the various internet slapfights, details at 11. In other news, water is wet.

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