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It's not an unfair comparison. They are building concentration camps. We hope they don't turn into death camps. If you read other investigations you'll find that people are dying in these detention centers (concentration camps).

> Then it was 42 hours of waiting in the airport holding rooms. Eventually they were put on a plane — then a minivan — to the facility in Texas. Maria Antonia said she didn’t really understand where they were going until they saw the center out the window.

> they had been detained for nearly four months.

So basically you're okay with the trains and the camps, just not the showers and incinerators?

No one is disputing the severity of Nazi brutality. However, there were several other types of camps we can compare the Dilly TX center to: Internierungslager, Durchgangslager, and Schutzhaftlager.

These are not concentration nor death camps, but Nazi camps all the same. It's important to be familiar with all of history and not dismiss a comparison because it doesn't fit the most extreme version that we know. How close do you think the Dilly TX center is in it's operation to these other types of Nazi camps? In which ways are they similar or different? Does that change anything?

There is a gigantic difference between deporting people who are in a country illegally vs targeting people for discrimination based on ethicality and/or religion.

The Nazis targeting ethnic minorities and placed them into labor camps. Which later became death camps.

That’s different than placing illegal immigrants who violated immigration laws (and once again I repeat include people of every ethnicity and every religion) into facilities to later be deported.

If people were being thrown into labor camps in America just for their ethnicity that would be akin to the nazis. But people are being deported for violating immigration laws and are being placed into facilities to facilitate the deportation. Illegal immigrants I repeat again and again can be members of any ethnicity or religion. The Nazis placed people into labor camps because of their ethnicity and later murdered them.

Furthermore many legally immigrant groups and ethnic minorities in America such as the Latinos in South Texas and South Florida voted for Trump specifically so he could pursue these immigration policies. I agree these policies have gone too far though. What happened to the little girl in this article was messed up.

(Actually I think I’ll edit my original comment to include this reply as well since many other people replied to me as well. Better that than reply to each person.)

Maybe we're seeing the same events under different motivational lenses.

I find it very difficult to believe that there is not an ethinic component to the events we are witnessing. Groups are not homogenous in their beliefs or desires. It's kind of telling when we start treating groups like South Texas or South Florida Latinos as if they have some homogenous view.

so why are they almost exclusively focused on brown immigrants vs European ones? why aren't they going after wealthy white business owners who employ undocumented immigrants? why are they going after immigrants who are here legally or are following the legal procedures? why have citizens been pulled into their unconstitutional dragnet? why aren't they providing decent food or health care to people in custody? why are there reports of sexual assault by employees in detention centers?

you are being extremely naive if you think white supremacy isn't motivating these actions.

and this timely article just showed up

https://contrarian.substack.com/p/inside-trumps-ice-concentr...

The nazis didn’t start doing that right away. It happened gradually.

> The Nazi took members of ethnic minorities and put them into death camps and massacred them in horrible ways.

It was a process over almost 10 years to get to that. Before they were rounding up people to be deported, when it became an issue too large to process deportations the labour camps were next, so on and so forth until gas chambers and industrial murder became the final solution.

If you think the parallel is ridiculous, think again.

> The Nazi took members of ethnic minorities and put them into death camps and massacred them in horrible ways.

That's not how it started. It started with labor camps for political enemies and other undesirables. They became death camps step by step, over time.

We have to nip them in the bud before they have a chance to become death camps. People are already dying of neglect.

I’m waiting to find out that experimentations are being done on humans in ICE detention centers. It won’t be all of them of course but it will happen in at least one. The Germans supporting Hitler would never have believed it, but the exact same mindset is running the show here. Just a matter of time.

The Nazis didn’t start by massacring ethnic (and political, sexual, and religious) minorities. They started by massacring mentally handicapped people.

But then they made noises about getting rid of undesirable people by shipping them out of the country. Prior to that plenty of dehumanizing rhetoric that Trump and others eerily echo. It was only after the forced deportations didn’t pan out that ghettos started. Then detention camps. And finally extermination centers.

It’s very reasonable to look events which appear similar to the start of genocides and decry them.