Electrek is a highly biased source, the editor has a grudge against Elon and Tesla. It's really unfortunate since it used to be one of the best EV sites.
A few are low speed reversing into things, the extreme majority of which done by humans are never reported and are not in the dataset comparing how many crashes Tesla have had vs humans.
I would say they’re facts, but they’re being used dishonesty
Since the narratives are redacted, who's to say the Tesla didn't change lanes to be in front of the bus, slam on the brakes, then get rear ended?
Or pull partially out of a driveway, stopping and blocking a lane with a bus traveling 35mph in said lane and got hit by it?
> A few are low speed reversing into things, the extreme majority of which done by humans are never reported and are not in the dataset comparing how many crashes Tesla have had vs humans.
I'm sure this happens to humans all the time, but not a single one of those humans would be considered a good (or even decent) driver.
So is the bar here being a good or decent driver, or being x times worse than the average human?
I see a lot of bar moving.
> I see a lot of bar moving.
"Less than decent" means "worse than the average human driver".
I've never hit a stationary object, or any object for that matter, in 20 years of driving.
I understand that might not be the same for you. My bar is that it must be better than my own good driving.
Even Waymo have tons of reported crashes in the same document.
Self driving cars need to be better than the average human - which means less injuries and deaths. Given 100 people will be killed on the road in the US today, it’s actually not a crazy high bar to clear.
My own bar being a self driving car better than me is made up and impossible to test for?
Stop trying to force shitty self driving implementations down other's throats. If they were good and useful, people would voluntarily use them.
> Self driving cars need to be better than the average human
And Teslas are obviously not, to everyone except the terminally brainwashed. Two more weeks until it works though, right?
Your bar is irrelevant, this isn’t about you, personally. This is about everyone.
As someone who is neither an Elon fan nor a hater, it irks me how deranged HN is about anything Musk-related.
It's always like that. The poor billionaire soon trillionaire is getting bullied by the blogger. Not.
Do you even realize how dumb that sounds?