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> We are ending the war on protein

Damn, I already missed the war on christmas, now this too?

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Since Congress never authorized it, it was technically an “authorized use of military force” against Christmas.

It’s called Special operation

They probably mean meat.

And by meat they mean Beef, because all the other electorate is scared off and Beef Farmers are the ones they can count on for a 2026/2028 victory.

Actually beef farmers are getting squeezed by the giant packing firms. Beef prices being as high as they are hasn't actually resulted in better living for beef farmers.

(As a native Iowan i am unfortunately more plugged into this than I'd like to be. Don't get me wrong, many beef farmers are sucked into the Fox News machine and shit, but only major corporations are happy with the state of affairs rn)

stop rationalizing for them

It's not rationalizing, this is what they mean. It's always been meat, specifically beef. And policy wise it's opposed to laws and initiatives that end subsidies for beef, seek to discourage red meat consumption, or account for the environmental impact of beef production.

They framed it as a the war on protein so that any bill concerned with beef could be countered with, "so you're against protein rich diets for Americans?!" Not only are the liberals going to take away your steak but now they're also responsible for the health crisis as well as why our men aren't tough and strong.

Don't accept bad faith framing.

I laughed out loud at this. Americans eat more protein than any group of people in history. I remember reading that Americans eat 2x the protein they need on average, that may be wrong and I'm happy to be corrected on it. It's so typical of RFKs nonsense. He can't just do the right thing, he has to add his insanity on top of it. Yes. Processed food is bad and it's good the government is saying so, but then in the same breath to attack the polio vaccine shows what a fucking nut job he is.

> I remember reading that Americans eat 2x the protein they need on average

Not anymore, because the new recommendations (1.2–1.6 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight per day) are up to double the old recommendations (0.80 g of good quality protein/kg bodyweight/d - https://www.nationalacademies.org/read/10490/chapter/12).

I have no idea which one is better for the average person, just thought this was funny. If everyone is eating double the recommendation, just double the recommendation, problem solved.

According to Grok, it's (probably) way more than 3x.

I haven't bothered checking with reliable sources but according to Grok, the average American consumes 3.2x the required amount of proteins from animal produces alone.

This is wrong. Protein displaces other macros, ie carbs and fat. We get too much fat and carbs.

A very good balanced take on the new guidelines can be found on “talking with docs” YouTube channel. Even the vegetarian doc agrees with prioritizing protein over carbs and fat. The big disagreement they have is the emphasis on the food industry, especially meat and dairy.

Growing up, I was taught the grains were at the bottom of the food pyramid. I actually agree that the new food pyramid is a right step when it comes to nutrition

Grains actually should be the bottom of the food pyramid, just not the grains represented in the old pyramid.

Peanuts, lentils, oats, peas, chickpeas, beans, etc. All grains that are both healthy and safe to eat a lot of.

And meat should be much less present too. Animal produce in general.

Protein intake should come from both vegetables and meats (to the tune of 500g to 600g per person per week, as a rule of thumb).

"Grains" usually refers to cereal grains. Everything you listed except for oats is typically classified as a legume or a pulse, not a grain.

I've never heard anyone refer to a food as a "pulse" as a lifelong American resident.

Granted, nobody has called a peanut a grain, but thinking about it, i don't really see why not to. But a pulse?

Legumes are grains. It's a sub category just like cereal is a sub category. They are all grains.

Only in the "cucumbers are fruit" botanically technically correct but incorrect from common usage standpoint.

Sure, except this is the first time in my life I've seen the term "pulse" used for a vegetable. And, honestly, only in the last 10 years have I been hearing the term legume in common conversation. Grain is definitely the more common term.

But the new pyramid is pretty similar to the old pyramid. From the page:

Grains: Target: 2–4 servings per day.

Vegetables: 3 servings per day.

Fruits: 2 servings per day.

The old pyramid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_pyramid_(nutrition)#/medi...) recommends 3-5 veg (same/more), 2-4 fruit (same/more), more grains, and is still relatively protein heavy (4-6 between meat and dairy).

It's basically a scene from The Office. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC5lsemxaJo

To me, the actual food pyramid picture from that campaign conveys the wrong idea, to the point that it's in fact detrimental.

Yes; that's why the Obama administration changed it in 2011 to be a plate instead of a pyramid.

https://letsmove.obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/letsmove...

https://www.myplate.gov/eat-healthy/what-is-myplate

(To much wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Right at the time; https://www.heritage.org/education/commentary/michelle-obama...)

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