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If you look closely, putting the Jews in camps will make the life of Germans better! you just need to consume other media channels.

If you look closely, Jews were citizens and an ethnic group. Jews also somehow weren't able protest along with the enemy while whistling.

An anti-Bloomberg headline might run like this: Bloomberg wants detention centers for illegals to be without a roof. I.e, of course the deportation process continues, real estate is needed.

Jews were not citizens. That's the oldest trick in the book, make up some dumb legalistic excuse for ones crimes against humanity.

Just gate citizenship to the lilliest of whites and then put non-citizens in camps...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws#Classifications...

Jews were stripped of citizenship after 1933, so in fact they were. Quite similar to how citizens of US have European, African, etc. heritage but are still citizens.

The stripping of citizenship was implemented as prerequisite for the camps.

You need a plausible excuse for the camps after all, as I'm sure you're well aware.

Sure. I'm simply saying that illegals in the US and German Jews aren't the same. The latter actually were citizens, most/many of them for more than one generation while the illegals in the US have recently entered. Also, US illegals are simply deported, not killed.

Also, acquiring real estate for any org to for any activity is also normal. E.g a town government who buys a warehouse to house a temporary school or hospital.

Bloomberg is just trying to insinuate analogies here because their political party didn't win.

Protest along with the "enemy"? What "enemy"? You seem extremely confused to the point of not even making sense anymore.

Well, the "enemy" of the protesters are the ICE officers. When drawing Nazi Germany comparisons I was pointing out that during those times people weren't whistling along German soldiers when they didn't agree to what they were doing.

Protest "along" is a strange word then. But the main question has always been prove illegality and come with actual legal warrants and don't commit terrorist acts on random civilians, if ICE were merely following the law the protests would have been much smaller.

What's the relevance of whistling? It's not clear if it's illegal, warning motorists about speed ticketing cops is legal for example.

1. The government has the right - and even the responsibility - to enforce the immigration laws.

2. The current administration is doing so far more violently and confrontationally than is needed.

Both are true. I can be in favor of enforcement of immigration laws and still be opposed to the way the administration is doing it.

What would you have them do differently? There are a lot of people who have violated immigration laws in the US.

I think you can invert GP's point #2 for that one.

Here's a start: end immunity and masks for ICE. This will naturally improve things.

But that's not all. You can also naturalize people who are being productive citizens.

ELI5 how it makes my life better. Right now the blowback is making my life worse.

You again seem very deeply confused. I think you are from one of the inferior countries where things like freedom of speech and rule of law don't quite exist. Nothing wrong with it, it's not a personal or moral failing. You just need to understand that "illegality" is something that needs determination in a court of law, not a random whim or statement of a Karen off the streets. Weren't you the one who completely made up some nonsense about "court orders" then kept on speaking completely irrelevant nonsense when it was pinned down that you had no idea about the topic, that you didn't even know the difference between a court order and a Karen warrant that has much less legal power, or what were the statistics of the both. You are again showing the same weird and complete utter nonsensical statements.

If you think random ICE karens's "statements" count, then I think you should have no problem accepting mine counts too. Let me declare kreetx is an illegal alien and a violent murderous pedophile. I hope you would not resist arrest. After all it has been declared so.

Law is the organization of state violence. You just have an antiquated view of the law, that no longer applies to reality.

I know we are living in Trumpian lawlessness but the person above seemed to be talking as if he actually believes this incoherent nonsense under normal interpretations too. He isn't even American btw, he has stated it himself.

The hilarious thing is they call it the "democrat" way.

Under democrat Biden, DHS jailed and detained me for 24 hours all while stating I was "not under arrest" and no probable cause that I had committed any crime. After they had finished, they retroactively got a warrant, to cover their ass, writing what was essentially 100% fabricated, claiming a completely (non-existent) unnamed dog told a completely unnamed officer that told yet another officer that I had drugs (thus impossible to ever cross-examine it in court the origin of their claim).

What does democrat biden have to do with your anecdote?

EDIT: Your were lucky. Disappearance without judicative oversight is no outcome of regular law enforcement. Watch this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkgNnbTrsgw

It has to do with the fact that the "democrat" way is also to brutalize residents with no probable cause they've done anything wrong. I mean yeah if you brutalize 10 people instead of 1 person you're more brutal, but you're still a brutalizer either way, and scale is the difference between the two parties.

Yeah American leo has hardly ever been a very "lawful" or sane entity, it's just that Trump enables them to a much more extreme level.

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