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> Freedesktop wants to kill X11 and are working continuously on that, to the point if rejecting patches and banning developers.

Are you referring to the developer of Xlibre, who submitted multiple broken patches & kept breaking ABI compatibility for little to no reason[0]? Or someone else?

[0]: see discussion & linked issues in the announcement https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44199502

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I’m talking about that developer, yes. And I’m sure there’s more to the story than just ABI compatibility.

He wanted X11 to thrive. Freedesktop however has a goal for Wayland ultimately to replace X11, right? X11 should die. This is not hyperbole. It’s a stated goal.

So I think there’s more to the story than the simplified ABI aspect often mentioned here on HN.

Also Gnome killing X11 support is real.

So is KDE backing down on BSD-support.

These are facts, not opinions.

> I’m sure there’s more to the story than just ABI compatibility

The number one goal for the Xwayland / Xorg devs is stability. Breaking ABI compatibility is a pretty big problem if stability is your goal.

We don't have to guess, the PRs & history are still there. You could easily go through them and find examples of the project members being unreasonable about ABI compatibility.

But of course that would destroy the narrative.

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