Hacker News Reader

Comment by johnebgd | Hacker News Reader

I switched to Ubuntu last week for my desktop. First time in my 25+ year career I’ve felt like Microsoft was wasting my time more than administering a Linux desktop would take. The slop effect is real.

View on HN

You won't regret. I have been using debian for last 25 years on and off and for last 8 years non stop. I have no complains.

Unfortunately it'll take time for certain companies to release their applications on Linux distro's. So right now I manage with WSL2 + Win 11.

I've used Kubuntu for several years, wife too now which is an official, supported flavor of Ubuntu using KDE desktop instead of Gnome. It gives a more Windows like or CDE (Common Desktop Environment - from UNIX systems) feel than Gnome which gives a more Mac feel.

Also a pretty heavy Kubuntu user. After spending my formative years tweaking Linux installs, this distro "just works" for me.

You might want to change to Debian or some other distro more radical.

https://ubuntu.com/ai

I am not getting what that linked url is supposed to mean. It is a very decent business page where ubuntu is selling consulting for "your" projects and telling why ubuntu is great for developing AI systems.

And eventually on Ubuntu itself, who knows.

Linux kernels will all eventually be permeated with AI-gen code as well. It will just take longer to see and feel the effects.

I'm sure there are a bunch of "Rust is better" people spending all their tokens on rewriting the Linux kernel as we speak.

Your argument is in bad faith because you are using false equivalence bias.

I wasn't making an argument. It was a prediction that all major software, (including the major linux distros) will eventually be majority (>50%) AI generated. Software that is 100% human generated will be like getting a hand knitted sweater at a farmers market. Available, but expensive and only produced at very small scale.

On what reasoning do you make this prediction? Just because corporations are mandating their employees to use AI right now does not mean it will continue.

Any new software developers entering the field from this point on will have to know how to use and be expected to use AI code-gen tools to get employment. Moving forward, eventually all developers use these tools routinely. There will be a point in the future where there is no one left working that has ever coded anything complex thing from scratch without AI tools. Therefore, all* code will have AI code-gen as all* developers will be using them.

* all mean 'nearly all' as of course there will be exceptions.

> Any new software developers entering the field from this point on will have to know how to use and be expected to use AI code-gen tools to get employment

And on what grounds do you make this assumption?

So eventually, doesn't the KPI move from "more code" to "better code"? The pendulum will have to swing the other way eventually; seems like microsoft is just accelerating that process

> doesn't the KPI move from "more code" to "better code"?

I would love for this to be true. But another scenario that could play out is that this process accelerates software bloat that was already happening with human coded software. Notepad will be a 300GB executable in 2035.

> Notepad will be a 300GB executable in 2035.

And this will cause what I'm talking about -- When nobody can afford memory because it's all going into the ocean-boiling datacenters, all of a sudden someone selling a program that fits into RAM will have a very attractive product

This is why, of course, nearly all open source projects are written in Java.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com