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I ran it on the "society if..." meme lol

For those like me not up on the hip memes: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-world-if

It's funny to see as a joke, but you can go the other way with this too. Image editing models and LoRAs for "previz-to-render upscaling" workflows are actually incredibly useful.

I was just writing about this (scroll about halfway down to the images of Sam Altman - though if you like that, do watch the second video):

https://getartcraft.com/news/world-models-for-film

The best model I've found for this, that almost bakes in full ControlNet capability, is oddly gpt-image-1.5. It's absolutely OP at understanding how to turn low-fidelity renders into final draft upscales.

Here are some older experiments:

https://imgur.com/a/previz-to-image-gpt-image-1-5-3fq042U

https://imgur.com/gallery/previz-to-image-gpt-image-1-x8t1ij...

https://imgur.com/aOliGY4

I just wish it didn't require invoking such heavy-weight, slow, and expensive models to do this. I'm sure open models will do this work soon, though.

You are able to do this stuff with open models for 1-2 years now, i for example have a comfyui pipeline that achieves a similar setup. It’s of course more work and you have to dig into the details more. I also have to adjust the pipeline and tweak it and use different models for each use case. But overall you can definitely achieve that level of control with open models already, it’s just not that user friendly

It's funny how know your meme has to sanitize the 4chan out of memes.

The 'how society would look without x' has been a racist trope on 4chan since way before the cited examples.

That doesn't pass the sniff test, many other pages on knowyourmeme correctly attribute memes to 4chan.

If you were right that would be easily verifiable. Do you have an example of a post dated before 2018? Maybe you're getting tricked by the fact that 2018 was 8 years ago?

12 times in a 2015 archive of /b/?

https://github.com/johnschriner/4chan-a-b-pol/blob/master/4A...

I think you are taking their point literally, its not that knowyourmeme is not crediting 4chan, its that the racism/edge is polished off presenting a more mainstream version of many memes.

This is you explaining that you have never plunged into the depths of Know Your Meme.

> If you were right that would be easily verifiable. Do you have an example of a post dated before 2018?

How?

Link to a message on one of the many historical archives of 4chan?

> racist trope on 4chan

So what? Are we going to bring back generational sin as well?

What’s going on with that (robot?) dog leash?

This is just Moscow

OK this is too fun. I did Reverse Anti-Render on a dreary scene in Moscow:

https://imgur.com/a/mqMEPUl

Now this is just Moscow in summer

I remember looking at an architect representation thinking, but the sun is always on the other side of the building.

There is a 35-story luxury apartment tower in my town, sold with the typical rendery renders, and the pooldeck is actually built on the NORTH side of the tower. Gets sun for maybe 15 minutes a day.

They couldn't rent all the apartments so they took a huge block of floors and started Airbnb-ing them (including allowing amenities access for the short term guests). To the great disgust of all the residents!

Trainwreck of a building.

Love how the sign "Ulitsa" changes into something unintelligible but keeps different cyrillic characters.

Diffusion models struggle with text.

Less and less these days, at least if the text is in Latin letters.

Pretty good. Compare with a real sunny day on that street.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/kf7ELMLoFPn3qioDA

Looks like Luebeck, Germany.

That almost looks like a scene from half-life 2

Is...is that Darth Maul on the left?

It seems you haven't been to Moscow for the last 20 years. With all the oil money + cheap workforce it looks much better than EU capitals.

It is rather Novosibirsk.

Or Dundee. The third "after" pic needs more Surron tracks up the grassy bank though.

Too clean.

As someone in the UK, this was especially chilling.

For context, internet has been nerfed in the UK, because of Epstein scandal politicians there started thinking too much of the children.

Looks like Machinarium. I like it.

What a beautiful and nostalgic game that was. I’ve never had a game hit me like that since!

I played it with my wife on the couch over many winters evenings, and then ten years later played it with my daughter. Good times. Reminded me of playing Sierra games as a kid.

Same here, though no kids yet.

I bought the soundtrack on vinyl (by Tomáš Dvořák, aka Floex), then got a record player, aaaand ended up accumulating a ton of records since then.

I still play that record though, it never gets old.

The other game that we enjoyed in a very similar way is Primordia [1]. Named our first cat Crispin afterwards.

You will probably enjoy Boxville [2]; it's very much Machinarium-inspired. Its sequel, Boxville 2,came out recently, so there's more in store.

It's Ukrainian-made (Machinarium is Czech), so the devs share a gritty post-communist childhood to draw the inspiration from.

[1] https://primordia-game.com/log.html

[2] https://store.steampowered.com/developer/triomatica

I also love the soundtrack so much and have listened to it thousands of times, especially By The Wall, my favorite song. PS: Thanks for posting the composer’s solo name, Floex, because there were (are?) two people with exactly the same name working at Amanita Design, bizarrely!

There’s also an album called Machinarium Remixed, which is the original soundtrack made into slightly more energetic/EDM tracks. Really good stuff.

I especially love "Mr Handagote" from the soundtrack, absolute masterpiece which gives me goosebumps every time.

I really enjoyed "Samorost 3" by the same developers. Machinarium still takes the cake though.

Don't miss out on their Botanicula too!

Yeah, it's really a masterpiece. It's utterly fantastic.

Your image made the reddit front page: https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/1qrwa2l/society_with...

> Thank you for submitting to /r/memes. Unfortunately, your submission has been removed for the following reason(s):

> Rule 1 - ALL POSTS MUST BE MEMES AND FOLLOW A GENERAL MEME FORMAT

> All posts must be memes following typical setup/design: an image/gif/video with some sort of caption; mods have final say on what is (not) a meme

Reddit mods, man.

> 4,613 points

> 96% upvoted

> Removed by a single moderator for subjective reasons while the sub's front page is full of crap

Ah, the quintessential Reddit experience.

Well to be fair Hackernews posts can get flagged too by the community itself where people then later talk about how or why a particular post gets flagged and discussion starts moving about the moderation/flag issues in HN.

(But this isn't to say that the fault's within the moderation community of HN which are great but just the issue which to me is imo that if many users flag a post, it can get flagged and the friction of getting it back is hard or a post typically ends up dying usually if it gets flagged in general imho)

There’s nothing subjective in the removal reasons.

Born too late to be a Stasi bureaucrat, born right on time to be a Reddit mod.

I was also wondering how the image got 16k+ views (as of now) (the stat was on imgur)

I was wondering what/how many HN users clicked on the image (not knowing it was uploaded to reddit too)

But now I seriously wonder out of those 16k (as of now), how many were/are from the hackernews community and how many from reddit.

For however brief a moment. It's gone now.

Reddit shows cached versions of posts on the front-page, so it might actually remain there for a couple of hours after the subreddit mods deleted it.

Does anyone have a mirror? I’m in authoritarian UK so the link is blocked

If you're in the UK in January, you can probably just look outside and that's approximately it.

I wish the UK looked this good.

Have you been to the Barbican?

The rimigo proxy works for me: https://rimgo.vern.cc/a/nFQN5tx

The link is blocked by imgur themselves, not the British government (authoritarian or otherwise), because the ICO was going to fine them for historic poor handling of children's data. https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/media-centre/news-and-blogs...

What does that even entail? Why does a site like Imgur even need to know which users are children?

Didn't it have user accounts and comments?

It had user accounts and it hosts prodigious amounts of porn, so it ran afoul of the part of the law that says that if you have user accounts and host user-generated content of any sort you have to make sure you're not showing porn to children.

It's annoying, but Imgur really do need to get a handle on things because that's where people host all the CSAM they post into Matrix channels.

> Does anyone have a mirror? I’m in authoritarian UK so the link is blocked

Here you go. I had it uploaded after hearing from the magospietato's comment but then saw you talk about the same so I am pasting the same image link here as well

https://files.catbox.moe/c4smhd.png

This looks like Rotterdam ten years ago

The future depends on what we do in the present

~ Mahatma Gandhi.

This looks like the average abandoned World's fair location from the 2000s

That may be quite close to the truth. Here are pictures from some abandones pavilions from the 2000 World Expo in Hannover. Sad to see this, as I lived in Hannover at that time and had a really good time at the Expo.

https://vergesseneorte.com/die-expo2000-in-hannover/

Looks like a lot of the "millennium" architecture (late 90s-early 00s) we have around my home city.

Complete aside, but it's beyond infuriating I need to enable a VPN here in the UK to view this link.

It's ironic because it looks like a picture of a dilapidated 2000s "millennium park" type of location which are common in the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismaland

> Complete aside, but it's beyond infuriating I need to enable a VPN here in the UK to view this link.

Here, I uploaded the image to catbox.moe if anyone's interested.

https://files.catbox.moe/c4smhd.png

I don't think that catbox is blocked within the UK.

This was the first thing I thought of, and it's gotten the hug of death now; thank you for uploading it.

So the future looks like... Germany?

If it could add mold and rust stains to the concrete it'd be perfect.

Wrong country

the world if autumn comes

This looks like a scene out of Enterprise.

Ugh, this looks way too real...

You are a genius.

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