If it is that easy for foreign governments to influence the very thoughts people have day-to-day, then something is extremely broken in your system and nearly all the blame is on your government for allowing that to happen.

All of America's failings are leveraged to sow political division by foreign actors. Abu Ghraib, SAVAK, Dimona - these are America's mistakes, not foreign fabrication.

Interesting, but also absurd.

The Scottish independence movement is a very strong, grass roots campaign that has been building for many decades ( pre-web never mind pre-twitter ), with the Scottish ambivalence to the Union having deep cultural roots.

What keeps Gaza and the wider actions of the current Israel government in the news is the constant killings and injustices. If they didn't want to be in the news perhaps they could stop killing people.

Next you will be telling me Minnesota is only in the news due to Russia bots - and nothing to do with the killing of civilians on the streets.

Nice try with the Hasbara, but in the end Netanyahu's gang, Iran crazies are Trumpists arent that different in the end. It's all about power, as 1984 stated. Ideology it's just marketing and bullshit for the people.

>It's not even in the same ballpark.

>0.03% of Iranians vs 3% of Gazans.

"One death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic"

Murdering 30,000 innocent people in three days of protests is indeed not in the ballpark of killing 30,000 militants in two years of a war, you're absolutely right.

There is a legal principal that comes into play when people are locked up for contempt of court. You can be locked up indefinitely or until the issue is moot. The the reasoning behind that is you hole the keys to your own cell.

The Israeli's demand was returning the hostages and the bodies of the people Hamas murdered. Hamas refused to do that for a year and a half.

Let me get this straight: If 60,000 people are killed in a war in 3 years, it's a genocide, but if 30,000 protesters are killed in 2 days, it's not? Not that either one is a genocide, but you're saying the difference is what percentage of the population died? Therefore, 10 people in Luxembourg are equal to 200 people in China?

Pallyweid [fake israelophobic buzzwords: apartheidgenocide] exposed. Gaza war with genocidal [Hamas Charter, declaration and methods] "Palestine" Gaza regime. We all know Hamas/PIJ death cult methods (search 'dead baby strategy'. In fact, it was already by Egyptian born Arafat - Hitler's al-Husseini-mufti's family who began the 'human shields' tactics of ITS OWN PEOPLE already in early '80s in Lebanon) - to maximize casualties of both sides. Almost all who propagated "genocide" already paddled the "apartheid" slur years earlier. BTW The A slurs began by Ahmad Shukeiri in UN on 10.17.61, who rationalized the Holocaust months after WW2 [B'nai B'rith 7.12.46] and on 11.30.62 had promoted in UN Neonazi gang Tacuara, who guarded Eichmann and Mengele. Then you have UNCHR by Pillay Kothari "Jewish control" 2022 trope, or UN's "rappartour" Francesca Albanese infamous - dubbed modern 'Goebbeles', her antisemitic tweets from 2014 remembered; or the mocked $30 membership IAGS "experts" countered [T.O.I, 9.9.25] by 537 real experts denying the "genocide" lie. So are objecting major countries who are neither socialist or Muslim. All the propaganda Goliath machine nor hecklers who pressure pols. to utter the G word, don't change facts. Nor the 32 Wikipedia editors organized gang [see ADL, 3.18.25].

Numbers: even if one accepts the 60,000+ figure, but since over 25,000 Terrorists have been eliminated on Gaza, the combatants-to-none ratio is rather impressive. And yes, Hamas women are usually assistants... all that is in the course of 2 years.

VS Islamic Republic of Iran massacring some 60,000 in a few days.

[Journalist].Shirin Sadeghi @ShirinSadeghi Jan 22, 2026: Thread on the scale of death, injury and devastation in Iran right now. This Dr conservatively estimates 60,000 killed, 360,000 injured and at least 1 million directly affected.

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Iran may have killed over 30,000 protesters in two days: Report. By Brady Knox. Washington Examiner. January 25, 2026. — Over two weeks, the Rapid Support Forces murdered thousands of civilians, with one estimate putting the kill count at over 60,000.

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CBN News @CBNNews: The Middle East is watching to see if the U.S. will strike the Iranian regime. As further reports of the violence inside Iran come in, the number of those killed by the regime is staggering.

Global terrorism expert Dr. Amir Hamidi said, "A physician-linked medical network has released what is described as a hospital-registered death toll of 40,274, emphasizing this does not cover all facilities and includes victims who never reached hospitals. Based on those gaps, the estimated toll may exceed 60,000. This is not crowd control. This is mass killing, disappearing chemical attacks, and black cloth to hide the evidence. This is a nationwide uprising met with state terror. And it fits the pattern of crime against humanity.”

It's a massacre on a scale that makes it one of the world's deadliest in a generation. The International Center for Human Rights adds that more than 350,000 have been injured and more than 10,000 blinded. [Saman Rasoulpour @SamRasoulpour Editor in Chief | Co-founder, Pulse Media | Covering Iran: news & analysis]

Saman Rasoulpour @SamRasoulpour: In the early days of Iran’s nationwide internet shutdown, at least 30,000 to 60,000 people were killed on the streets. During this period, Mohammad Marandi was among a small, handpicked group of regime-approved individuals inside Iran who retained internet access , joining international media via live video from the state broadcaster Press TV’s studio in Tehran, while helping justify the regime’s narrative as the killings unfolded. Jan 28, 2026.

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Turlockers continue to show support for Iranian protesters. Joe Cortez, Turlock Journal, Jan 28, 2026 — ... protesters in Turlock, with friends and family still in Iran, paint a far more harrowing picture. “When I spoke to my friend (Saturday), he told me that it’s over 60,000 that have been killed,” said Turlock’s Raymon Galavan, who came to the U.S. from Iran in 2006. “People are protesting for freedom with nothing in their hands, and they’re being killed with (military-grade) bullets. And the people who are in hospitals, they take them out and they kill them on the street, and bury them in mass graves. This is the reality. This is not out of a movie.”.. “What they’re telling me right now is that there are absolutely two or three families in each street, and in each alley, that have had someone killed,” said Farhad. “The estimated number of killed in two nights is more than 40,000. Whoever says different … forget about it. It’s a massacre.” Robert David, who co-organized the local protest with Charles Sharlou, added to those disturbing totals. “The numbers we’re getting are more than 800,000 injured and over 300,000 who have been arrested by the regime,” said David, also a native of Tehran. “There is no freedom in Iran. Whatever the regime wants, they do in the name of Islam, and everybody is expected to follow.”

You treating human life as less worthy if a population has more of them?

It’s 30k in a week - all civilians vs 60k in 2 years - in a mixture of civilians and combatants.

Did you also see I was born in Baghdad and know first hand what actual ethnic cleansing is?

Qatar spent $20B on education alone in the US. China Russia and Qatar have collectively brainwashed millions of Americans and Europeans.

It's a beautiful thing when you can designate any male carrying objects in their hands as terrorists and get license to kill him and his human shields (guy went home).

> an American living in Israel

lmao, every. single. time.

If you say so

I don't think anyone really believes civilian deaths shouldn't be condemned. I think the main source of argument is who gets the blame. Hamas could've returned the hostages at any time, but they got rewarded by foreign money (and immensely successful anti Israel propaganda campaign by Qatar, Russia and China) to keep going.

The only real way to peace for gazans is to have a non Islamist government take over (like from the UAE) and re educate the population to not start training their children for intifada at the age of 3 or 4 and instead use some of the billions they've received in aid to build infrastructure and education.

It's not just press. The actions of the world are to let Iran continue doing what it wants to its people and not interfere.

The reason isn't that no one disagrees, it's that Qatar, Russia and China don't think the issue is divisive and have not launched a multi billion dollar propaganda campaign about it. And the actual press couldn't care less if Israel isn't involved.

It's because Qatar, Russia and China launched a multi billion dollar propaganda campaign targeting Israel. Israel is so divisive it's the perfect way to divide a population.

Lots of worse things have happened in the past two years (Sudan, Nigeria, and now Iran). No Jews no news.

Might have to do with the funding cuts to public broadcasting?

it's also being relentlessly flagged here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46760329

How there is a marriage of convenience between western progressivism and ultra-conservative theocracy is still confusing and mysterious to me.