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> This is a good thing. If you spam thousands of users, you are a spammer

Or you got hacked by a spammer.

> even if you also happen to send legitimate emails.

And also a bad thing. E.g. for the user losing a critical legit email.

> if Gmail marked all their emails as spam until they stopped, that would be a major quality of life improvement for everyone.

Sorry absolutely not for everyone. To me, receiving legit PayPal email is far more important than being protected from PayPal spam, prevented from employing my own protection.

One size does not fit all.

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Google relies on ad-revenue.

And it uses automated mechanisms to read every Gmail email, so it can train its AI LLMs and to serve more focused ads to its users.

So if a user receives PayPal emails and doesn't mark them as Spam or block them, I'm pretty sure Google interprets that as a user who uses eCommerce websites, and a good target for ada related to that market.

Sure, you can manually unmark them as spam, and gmail should respect that preference as well. But for the rest of us, it would be an improvement if Paypal was sent to spam by default until they were forced to stop sending spam.

You can just create a filter in Gmail for "Paypal" (keyword match or sender match) to automatically mark such incoming emails as spam.

Don't expect Google to blacklist big companies like PayPal, Amazon, etc. They all have partnerships.

I already have a ton of gmail filters and folders, most of which I rarely check.

Any organization that continues to send marketing material after someone clicks Unsubscribe (with maybe a grace period of a few hours) should have all of their email considered spam for everyone by default. If they continue or ever start sending marketing materials afterwards because of some new bullshit category, all of their email should be considered spam by default as well. If their Unsubscribe process is more complicated than one or two clicks, you should be able to report this as well, and... you guessed it, I think all of their emails should be considered spam by default for everyone.

Obviously I don't expect Gmail to do actually do this (except maybe by accident sometimes lol). But I wish they did.

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