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ICE needs to be shrank down to 2003 levels.

And no selective protections. Not like how meat and dairy processors were corruptly shielded from immigration raids and tacitly allowed to break the law unlike everyone else.

The corruption, lawlessness, and brutality of the paramilitary kidnapping gestapo has to end.

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2002, ideally.

> The corruption, lawlessness, and brutality of the paramilitary kidnapping gestapo has to end.

This kind of incendiary rhetoric is very unhealthy.

How would you characterize what ICE is doing in the Minneapolis area? There are plenty of videos at this point of questionable behavior, to say the least. The chief of the MPD talked about how his officers of color have been harassed when they're not in uniform. I've listened to several historians and experts on autocracy talk about ICE in those terms.

Well, I certainly wouldn't use the words "paramilitary kidnapping gestapo". That is an absurd overstatement and amounts to propaganda.

Strictly speaking it probably gives them slightly too much credit; the Gestapo was a conventional secret police force which had rules, however abhorrent, that it was largely bound by. “Paramilitary kidnapping SS” might more closely fit the lawlessness on display. At this point it appears to be more private army than law enforcement.

But not as unhealthy as the actions accurately described by the “rhetoric”.

Which part is incorrect?

This website is amazing.

People doing fascism - meh, flag, move on.

People calling the people doing fascism rude names - HOW DARE YOU

People should stick to the truth. Accusations of fascism, gestapo, etc. are not.

They are breaking down doors without warrants, dragging citizens out of cars, lying about shootings and car rammings, beating protestors up, dragging them across pavement and putting them in choke holds or kneeling on their necks, detaining citizens, kidnapping kids and sending them to detention centers out of state, ignoring due process and making death threats. This done in blue cities where Democratic officials are threatened with legal action.

Play semantic games if you want, this is full on authoritarian stuff that doesn't belong in America.

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