Comment by mlindner | Hacker News Reader

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I'd agree with most of what you said, but there is no "raising a Gestapo". ICE has existed for 25 years. And the laws that give it permission to act haven't changed. It has gradually grown over the decades but what it fundamentally does has not.

What's new is finally the federal government pushing back against locales that refuse to allow local police to cooperate with federal law enforcement by means of massive influxes of federal officers to offset the lack of local support.

Also ICE has widespread support for what they are actually doing. Only when you ask manipulative questions that presume something is happening that isn't, do you get poll results that support a widespread dislike for ICE.

ICE has not been disappearing people to meet quotas for 25 years.

"Terrible things are happening outside. At any time of night and day, poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. They're allowed to take only a knapsack and a little cash with them, and even then, they're robbed of these possessions on the way. Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared. Women return from shopping to find their houses sealed, their families gone."

I'm not sure what you're quoting but that is fan fiction of some sort divorced from reality.

> ICE has widespread support for what they are actually doing

Minnesota would like to have a chat with you.

https://www.kttc.com/2026/01/20/americas-pulse-current-ice-a...

About 40-50% are in support, so the parent's accurate. That roughly matches the political divide across the states.

The first sentence says that that's a national poll, not a Minnesota poll

I mean yes conservatives like gestapo mistreating their political opponents. It does not make it not gestapo or not lawless.

It makes conservatives who they are - fascist party.

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