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I recently tried out https://daisyui.com/ (CSS only components, depends on tailwind) and so far I really like it.

It also highlights how far browser have come with new features such as dialogs, which I always implemented with (a lot of) JavaScript in the past

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This library doesn't appear to be accessible. Just looking at two random components: The Drawer (https://daisyui.com/components/drawer/) doesn't trap focus inside itself (letting you tab to the page behind the drawer while it's open). The Accordion (https://daisyui.com/components/accordion/) first example is using radio buttons as a hack to avoid Javascript, which would be very confusing to screen reader users (announcing the radio buttons to them).

This is why there's so much complexity in libraries like Radix - accessibility in the real world usually requires a lot of Javascript.

> This is why there's so much complexity in libraries like Radix - accessibility in the real world usually requires a lot of Javascript.

I agree in many scenarios, but for the two you mentioned it seems like the <dialog> and <details> elements provide accessible solutions out of the box?

They do, most issues that arise from making things accessible are self inflicted. Some people just want to redesign things for the sake of design while ignoring a core principle of design (accessibility) over aesthetics.

Sounds harsh but maybe somethings SHOULDN'T be designed a certain way because it breaks a11y when there are other roads to be taken that can still look pleasant, be accessible, and way easier to maintain (less brittle JS to worry about).

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