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Unfortunately our federal government is more than powerful enough to take Greenland and mow us all down.

I am genuinely sorry that Atlanticism came down to a few hundred thousand of the dumbest Midwesterners we could find.

Would that it were so easy to blame the flyover states. Almost half the people who cast votes voted for this - and at the same time voted for the status quo legislators who opt not to keep him in check.

The blame extends equally to everybody who supported this but due to the way American elections are set up, those people on the margins are “how” this happened.

It’s easier to blame the heartland than it is to think about why it happened that way, isn’t it?

I’ve long since stopped giving a fuck about why these people are the way they are.

enjoy the decline then I suppose

He won the popular vote.

...among the people who voted. There are a lot of folks who opted out that bear responsibility for the way this country and its power is being dismantled.

He wouldn't win the popular vote today! Why is it that when you call yourself a Republican, you take a very narrow margin of victory and consider it a mandate to only listen to your fanbase? I bet it feels fun at first, and there are a few people who get very wealthy and powerful as a result, but reality always comes crashing back down.

I suppose that if the talk of suspending mid-term elections bears fruit, that changes the equation.

The people who opted out do bear responsibility.

Would he win the popular vote today? Hard to know. Only the kind of people who are willing to talk to pollsters end up in polls.

Both parties tend to claim a high moral position and definitive mandate from a narrow margin of victory.

Talk of suspending mandates, third terms, and invading Greenland are exactly how he keeps winning- talk past your goal, and retreat to victory.

...with a plurality, not a majority.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness

You can still call your congressman, senator, local political, councilman, or someone else, spend 30 mins watching a demonstration, donate $10 to Amnesty, tell a random dude in fatigues "grateful for your service but please don't invade Greenland". The more people that do these kind of things the harder it gets for the Fascists to brand those that do as left-wing terrorists.

I’ve been tear gassed. I’m out here trying. I just know it’s gonna get a lot worse before it gets better. The regime is losing its grip and the only way out that fascists know is to escalate the violence.

Invading Greenland is a symptom of us on the ground fighting back. It’s to prove to Americans that we’re now isolated.

Don't the Americans have the second amendment to save themselves from their government?

There have been multiple instances of exactly what NRA members decry as federal tyranny: Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc. At not a single one did any number of people exercising their second amendment right ever show up to actually do anything, even to peacefully protest.

The idea that the 2nd amendment exists to keep alive a threat of rebellion against a tyrannical gov't is a joke.

The truth is that on average Republicans have way more guns that Democrats.

Anecdata but… I’ve personally known many Republicans who have massive gun collections and even personal shooting ranges in their basement. I’ve never met a Democrat with any of that.

Only one side of this conflict is meaningfully armed and they are already in power.

Well 40% of the population or so approves of the administration, so it's more like "to save themselves from their government and 40% of the rest of the population". That means resorting to the 2A is, at the very best, a rather weak bet.

The second amendment almost ended the current government.

“Second Amendment solutions” are only OK to talk about if you’re a Republican (I.e. “Real American”).

I’m being sarcastic, for the record. Back during his first term, Trump talked about “second amendment people” doing something about liberal Supreme Court justices (iirc) and the right wing media treated everyone as crazy for thinking that was wildly inappropriate.

It's really interesting how the same propaganda is applied by fascist governments everywhere. The ones supporting the "nationalist" government are the patriots and the others are enemies

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