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Musk is implicitly allowing child pornography on his platform. There's no way around that. Apple/Google should have removed X a while ago.

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> Musk is implicitly allowing child pornography on his platform.

That is blatantly false and you know it. Musk has lot to answer for but we don't need to start making up imaginary crimes here.

> Apple/Google should have removed X a while ago.

Those who ask willy-nilly for censorship always end up being surprised when the systems comes after them in the end as it always does.

If tomorrow Apple and Google ban an app that you like, will you still agree that censorship is ok?

Come on now. That's obviously not true. CSAM is absolutely banned on twitter, and all other American platforms.

Grok AI generating child pornography has been a leading news story in the British press for the past few days.

to make the censorship more palatable to the general public.

All images uploaded to twitter, or any other lawful American social media platform, are perceptually hashed and checked against databases of known CSAM. Computer generated pornography, while obviously odious, is not technically illegal in the US. And in either case, twitter has been a dumping ground of such crap for as long as it has existed. In short, with all due respect, get a grip.

All of what you said could be true and it'd *still* be wrong for Grok to be allowed to generate it.

All Musk actually needed to say was "oh fuck, we'll fix that". Instead, he responded with laughing emojiis and nothing's changed.

> is not technically illegal in the US

Bully for you.

X is operating in the UK and it *is* illegal here (and not just here). X can either comply with our laws (and the associated moral standards) or it can cease operating here.

There's weird nerd diving in front of Musk to defend him and then there's defending his AI generating CSAM. Neither's a good look, but one is much worse than the other

Saying that Musk should stop his bot from generating underage waifus is fine and agreeable, but construing that with actual CSAM is plainly manipulative. Of course, the British media has long been known for ""nonce"" hysteria, probably because they know the government and royales are degenerate criminals but don't have the spine to go against the local establishment for it, so instead they redirect that energy in bizarre directions.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_U-7L1tmBAo

What makes you think this is an appropriate response to someone telling you what's been published in newspapers?

"It's not child porn because AI made it" is quite the take.

And people wonder why the UK introduces all of these bloody laws...

It's still child porn. Now it's child porn that won't match existing hashes! What a great innovation X!

Grok nudifying images of children or woman in replies is not a good thing.

Then why does Musk refuse to fix 'Grok' and allow it to produce CSAM? Is this what the billionaire class want? AI everywhere and then hide behind "it's not the AI doing it, it's the users prompting it!".

> Is this what the billionaire class want?

The billionaire class loves this type of shit, just look at the epstein files

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