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For many, if not most, of the sites I regularly visit, text based browsers work surprisingly fine. My main complaint is actually the structure of the html. In many cases sites could improve massively, if they moved navigation to below the actual content. Having a large vertical menu taking up the entire screen as the first thing you see is slightly annoying.

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Best thing about sites that works in TUI browser is that it can also work in Tor Browser "Safest" mode. In fact to those who are saying that these text based website are anti feature. I would argue that it is a safety feature to be able to browse and work in Tor Browser "Safest" mode. In fact ALL web page should strive to work in "Safest" mode, and only throw in bells and whistles when needed. As one can see just by turn on JS the site is NO longer really safe.

Let me ask you, is TOR even still safe or worth it?

I'm seriously asking cause I don't know. I heard that the US govt runs a lot of the exit nodes now. So maybe it's safe, as long as you don't live in the US?

I mentioned it in another comment, but @media: grid[1] support can help distinguish the user agents that are text-mode.

[1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/A...

I did that that recently for a couple of personal projects and I like it. I think I will start doing it for client sites too.

https://omnicarousel.dev

The main navigation menu is just above the site footer in the HTML document.

Question for people who know that stuff:

What is the recommended way of hiding features that require JavaScript on browsers that do not support JavaScript, e.g., on w3m?

"What is the recommended way of hiding features that require JavaScript on browsers that do not support JavaScript, e.g., on w3m?"

You can try the <noscript> tag.

> The main navigation menu is just above the site footer in the HTML document.

Just letting you know, that stuff is a bit confusing to screen reader users.

Though I really wish we standardized on putting content first, like mobile apps do. At least we woulnd't haave to explain to new screen reader users why getting to the f???ing article is so damn hard if you don't know the right incantations to do it quickly.

Thank you!

Would a Jump to navigation link next to Skip to content make this arrangement better for screen reader users?

For the (small, noncommercial) sites I help with, we've always had at least a ‘jump to content’ link at the very top, hidden by CSS, dating back to when lynx was my main browser. In practice today, it's more for people using screen readers.

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