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if you are very high up the chain like Linus, i think doing vibe coding gives you more feedback than any average dev. So they are having a positive feedback loop.

For most of us vibe coding gives 0 advantage. Our software will just sit there and get no views and producing it faster means nothing. In fact, it just scares us that some exec is gonna look at this and write us for low performance because they saw someone do the same thing we are doing in 2 days instead of 4.

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Less a 'chain' or hierarchy than a lecture hall with cliques. Many of the 'influencers', media personalities, infamous, famous, anyone with a recognizable name - for the most part - was introduced to the tsunami wave of [new tech] at the same time. They may come with advantages, but it's how they get back to the 'top' (for your chain) vs. staying up there.

For a while now I've felt that there's an apathy in: there's more content being created than consumed.

this is true, like 90% of projects submitted on product hunt have 1 vote or less.

I've set the bar so low that getting a reply to that was already unexpected.

There is a lot of "attention" to go around for small group interactions like this subthread. Like a bar chat I guess.

Lmao, me too, the internet has become a single player game at this point. I usually just type and forget.

Except that Linus does basically zero programming these days. He's a manager, combining code from the subsystem managers below him into a final release.

Right, but Linus also has an extremely refined mental model of the project he maintains, and has built up a lot of skills reading code.

Most engineers in my experience are much less skillful at reading code than writing code. What I’ve seen so far with use of LLM tools is a bunch of minimally edited LLM produced content that was not properly critiqued.

Here's some of the code antirez described in the OP, if you want to see what expert usage of Claude Code looks like: https://github.com/antirez/linenoise/commit/c12b66d25508bd70... and https://github.com/antirez/linenoise/commit/a7b86c17444227aa...

This looks more worrying than impressive. It's long files of code with if-statements and flag-checking unicode bit patterns, with an enormous number of potential test-cases.

It's not conceptually challenging to understand, but time consuming to write, test, and trust. Having an LLM write these types of things can save time, but please don't trust it blindly.

I see dividing the tests and code into two different changes is pretty nice, In fact I have been using double agent thing where one is writing tests and other is writing the code, solves the attention issue also. Although the code itself looks harder to read, but that is probably more on me than Claude.

That's wrong, he is coding, well, vibecoding.

https://github.com/torvalds/AudioNoise

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