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> His defenders kept, and keep, using it as an excuse

Genuine request for a source here.

Seconded. I don't recall hearing anyone talk about "the rules based order" until a couple of years ago.

When Trump talks about rules, laws, and order it’s in the “L'État, c'est moi” (the state is me) sense. I.e. following the law means following his whims.

https://time.com/5846321/nixon-trump-law-and-order-history/

(They said law and order, because they couldn't say anti black)

> (They said law and order, because they couldn't say anti black)

Law and order != rules-based international order.

Never. Trump wants to be a dictator, he loves Putin, he wants power and any "rules" that control him are antithetical to his entire political program and to his political party.

Anybody who wants a rules based order is extremely anti-Trump, just as they are anti-Putin.

that's what you get for having conversations with fascists