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Working remotely taught me a similar lesson as the author. The most important part that I think people get wrong in general is that online friends, or your good friends from uni or your childhood youth that you only see in person once or twice a year, can't replace an active local friends group - or community as he calls it. Cutting the daily interactions with other humans by no longer going to an office every day made me realize that - because you very quickly feel that something is missing.

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Yeah, I've been WFH since the pandemic and my team is remote anyway, so even going to the office doesn't help (much).

I'm exploring in-office jobs for 2026.

I like my remote job and don’t want to leave, but I also can’t work at home because I get depressed and my productivity drops to zero.

Wework and other coworking spaces have mostly been a disappointment as a way to find community, with just two exceptions over the years (one of which was killed by covid).

I’m still searching.

i am somewhere in the middle because my work requires me to go to the office only four days per month but no one is really checking (nor they check if i go in at 9 am or 1pm).

so for me it's nice because i get to have my slow morning and go to the office during lunch break (i live relatively close).

this made me realize that i don't really mind the office (i ended up going almost every day, staying from lunch break 'till 5pm) but i loathe essentially two things:

- shitty coworkers (better to hop job at all, but avoiding them in person does help a lot)

- going to the office being mandatory (as in, not having freedom and autonomy)

in my current setup colleagues tend to autonomously organize when to meet in the office and go out for lunch together. and frankly... it's great.

the work itself has a lot of shortcomings (and i'm fixing things left and right from the first week i joined the company) but the people and the autonomy make it great.

Having online friends can be great, but you’re right that it doesn’t replace in person friend groups.

One big problem with having mostly or only online friends is that you spend all day at work in front of a computer, then if you want to spend time with your online friends you spend more time in front of a computer. It can turn into all day every day screen time.

Why can't you have an online community?

littlecranky, put your reply back please; it was a good one.

You can, but it does replace meaningful irl connection with other humans.

Squigz my guy, you're missing out.

Because they can’t reach you when there’s a power outage to check that you’re warm. They can’t share boiled water with you when the mains break. They can’t invite you to a meal when you’re lonely.

They can mostly only ever wish you well.

This stuff is valid, but a lot of it is more "be there in a crisis", which is not the day to day.

For me, the significant thing about having local community is the ability to throw stuff together last minute. Not every gathering has to have a spreadsheet of guests and canva invites and endless emails booking a band, a keg, whatever else.

A lot can and should just be "hey dudes, anything doing anything? Want to come over for a game/movie/whatever?" Those kinds of low-stakes hangouts are the real backbone of community, and they're hard to do if you don't have a friend group that's physically close by.

There was a period of time in my mid 20s when me and a close friend ot mine lived across the street from each other, and what you said here resonates with me strongly.

It is such a massive boost to quality of life to just be able on a whim to send a text like “i am tryna grab some food+drink in 15min, you down?” and actually make it happen more than half the time (and being able to receive similar texts from the friend too). Lots of spontaneous interactions and (barely-any-)planning for just normal low-pressure outings was absolutely my favorite part of that time period.

On a sidenote, I absolutely despise the “guest spreadsheet canva invites for an event scheduled a month in advance and endless emails booking a band” way of regularly doing social stuff. It is totally chill and reasonable to do so for special occasions and bigger events, but having it as the primary way of socializing makes me want to drill a hole in my skull.

I miss that about dorm life in college. For 4 years I lived in an arcology with people who were the same age and economic class as me. Since the commute to anyone's place was 1-5 minutes on foot, you could get food, watch a movie, and drop out whenever without worrying about the sunk cost of fucking driving 15 minutes in a car-centric city from one detached SFH to another detached SFH.

I miss the arco. I miss the arco a lot.

Neighbors can provide these things if you’re willing to reciprocate. And you don’t have to be close with them, just friendly.

I think the nuance of the different types of community is often lost in these discussions, and that they're not mutually exclusive.

We've moved around a lot. Getting cool neighbors like this is like winning the lottery. We finally have neighbors that are fun to hang out with, and, yes, it's incredibly awesome.

I can only speak to my own experience, but for the last 1 year I have been by myself and my 2 younger daughters in a new town. I work remotely, but also have some very good friends that I can rely on when I need. Those friends are distributed all over the world and while I can call them any time off the day or night, there is a fundamental difference how I feel after a phone/video call to after a conversation over e.g. drinks/dinner. In fact I found that I sometimes avoid calling my friends because the phone call makes me feel lonelier.

So for me online communities can be a great thing, but they can't replace IRL communities, because the interactions make you feel different. I suspect that the social needs that evolution has imprinted on us can't just be fulfilled by online interactions, they require more senses than just hearing and seeing.

Touch is nice. And important for making social bonds.

For most people it just leads to poor mental health.

I suppose there are exceptions.

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