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Comment by jakeydus | Hacker News Reader

And reddit turned around and sold it all for a mess of pottage…

Sold being the operative word, rather than giving it away for free.

Well, it is available for free either way. They pissed off their user base all for a horse that had already left the stable.

https://academictorrents.com/details/2d056b22743718ac81915f2...

Look at their stock price. They are doing very well since IPO, and much of it was revenue from selling their data.

Google's $60m/yr is the only thing keeping them profitable.

Mozilla's business model isn't really something to emulate, even if the stock market doesn't really see it that way.

Not really. Lots of companies have valuable data they sell and have been in business for decades just fine. It's even better for reddit because it's user generated so they don't even have to do anything. The users who left during the API debacle are not the vast majority of users which are generally casual and do not give a single shit about what happened, much as tech people like to think otherwise.

The causal users (to say nothing of the the massive uptick in bot traffic) are some of the more useless data from an AI training perspective.

Again, this is a techie take. Lots of people for example use ChatGPT for personal therapy and guess which subs their training data comes from, r/relationships etc. Those trying to use them for other means are comparatively less frequent.

When I say casual, I mean youtube style comments where people just post memes rather than engaging, thoughtful content for whatever niche they're in. Which is essentially noise for training data.

Your interpretation of casual as stuff like r/relationships is itself "techie talk".

Sure, memes aren't useful but I suspect that's not what Google is paying Reddit millions of dollars for...

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