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ICE has arrested US citizens, violently assaulted them, and have held them even when US citizenship proof was provided.

We Found That More Than 170 U.S. Citizens Have Been Held by Immigration Agents. They’ve Been Kicked, Dragged and Detained for Days. - https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-... - October 16th, 2025

Yes. Arresting people for civil infractions (such as overstaying a visa, or even citizens caught in drag nets or protests) and taking them to 3rd party nations for detention is definitely a tactic a totalitarian police state would employ.

Public health is equivocally one of the few places the constitution is defined for (general welfare of the people). This is something they used to teach in civics classes, I wonder when that stopped?

Schools can barely teach reading and math. So civics is probably a de facto study hall at this point.

I'm not sure this is true. I think schools are forced to pass people they shouldn't by policy. But does that mean they barely teach fundamentals?

ICE has more funding now as a domestic law-enforcement agency than almost every military on the planet. If we need to fund the "arrest of illigal immigrants" to such an amount as this, can you please explain to me how other countries, as you mention in your comment, can successfully do this with nowhere near that amount of funding?

It's not just illegal immigrants. They've been arresting and deporting legal ones and even citizens. Deporting to countries they never been to and foreign prisons where they cannot get out.

I would love to hear how is this similar to COVID at all.

Well you see before Covid, Aunt Karen could waltz into the Olive Garden for "wine night" whenever she wanted, and could even threaten to leave a bad review and get half the bill comped (she didn't need the money but it was a nice power trip). During Covid, she had to make a reservation because half the tables were lOcKeD dOwN and when the hostess had the gall to tell her that she needed to wear something to cover her schnauze, the manager took the hostess's side. So you see in many ways it was much more oppressive than being made to tan outside all day at some sunny vacation resort.

ICE has detained a few hundred citizens as of September 2025

So you're totally fine with the police state when it's turned against people you don't like, but you consider it a bad thing when you disagree with its aims. That's a pretty bare display of hypocrisy.

While you were traveling did armed thugs go door to door disappearing people without due process?

Defending Nazis makes you a Nazi too.

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