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How about caring for both? How about that as an idea? It’s impossible for you to accept that you can arrest and jail all those people to protect the lives of regular citizens but also not torture them while they are in jail?

Sigh… there is no such thing as forfeiting your human rights by committing a crime. You only forfeit your freedom temporarily.

And why mention that inmates have forfeited their human rights if you see no evidence of abuse? Weird thing to pre-argue.

Of course there is. Freedom is a pretty fundamental human right. We don't mind taking it away from some people, sometimes permanently. Then of course the death penalty is a thing.

Now organised abuse, or even not taking steps to prevent such abuse is accepted to be a bad thing by most of society so that shouldn't happen. But my concern isn't directed in any way towards violent gangsters that held an entire country hostage.

How do you know who's a violent criminal without a trial?