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1.88 billion tokens * $12 / 1M tokens (output) suggests a total cost of $22,560 to solve the game with Gemini 3 Pro?

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I can't believe how massively underpaid I was when I was 11

Do you hallucinate as a kid?

At that age, it's called "imagination"

All kids confidently state incorrect things it's part of growing up

That is just part of being a frontend developer

Kids definitely do this. They fill in blanks/context with assumptions, resulting in all sorts of silly responses, for topics of sparse knowledge/certainty. They're not lying, because they think it's true. Sometimes the gap filling is wrong, but usually downright brilliant, within the context of their knowledge.

Are you sure there is an age limit for that kind of behavior in humans?

I replied within the context provided rather than all possible contexts. Would you also like to bring up the interpolation and extrapolation seen during problem solving in the cuddle fish, since it's related?

calcification is as inevitable as entropy

My friend's son says he sometimes closes his eyes, imagines cartoons, and watches them.

“Gemini 3 Pro was often overloaded, which produced long spans of downtime that 2.5 Pro experienced much less often”

I was unclear if this meant that the API was overloaded or if he was on a subscription plan and had hit his limit for the moment. Although I think that the Gemini plans just use weekly limits, so I guess it must be API.

Geminii CLI has a specific "model is overloaded" error message which is distinct from "you're out of quota" so I suspect whatever tools they're using for this probably have something similar, and they're referring to that.

True though I bet the $200 a month plan could do it, maybe a few extra days of downtime when quota was maxed

For how long would it stay $200 of you can rack up 5 figures if usage..

That is the reason they severely limited Claude Max subscriptions. Some users racked up 1k+ in API equivalent cost per day.

This is exactly why I upgrade to the Pixel 10 Pro. On Black Friday, you could get a Pixel 10 Pro for about $450 on the U.S. Google Fi store (which sells unlocked phones)... which is also about how much a Pixel 9 Pro goes for on eBay; minus eBay fees and accounting for shipping, that's an upgrade for < $100. But, it's even better, the Pixel 10 Pro comes with a year of their "AI Pro" plan (which I believe costs around $240/year.) There is really, really no point in upgrading to a Pixel 10 Pro from a Pixel 9 Pro, and environmentally it pains me to be the person upgrading my phone on an annual basis (this is the fastest I've ever upgraded a phone, ever) but it's hard to turn down when Google is selling $800~ish for $400~ish.

And yeah, it's not the insanely priced AI Ultra plan, but if there are any hard limits on Gemini Pro usage I haven't found them. I have played a lot with really long Antigravity sessions to try to figure out what this thing is good for, and it seems like it will pretty much sit there and run all day. (And I can't really blame anyone for still remaining mad about AI to be completely honest, but the technology is too neat by this point to just completely ignore it.)

Seeing as Google is still giving away a bunch of free access, I'm guessing they're still in the ultra-cash-burning phase of things. My hope (hopium, realistically) is that by the time all of the cash burning is over, there will be open-weight local models that are striking near where Gemini 3 Pro strikes today. It doesn't have to be as good, getting nearby on hardware consumers can afford would be awesome.

But I'm not holding my breath, so let's hope the cash burning continues for a few years.

(There is, of course, the other way to look at it, which is that looking at the pricing per token may not tell the whole story. Given that Google is running their own data centers, it's possible the economic proposition isn't as bad as it looks. OTOH, it's also possible it is worse than it looks, if they happen to be selling tokens at a loss... but I quite doubt it, given they are currently SOTA and can charge a premium.)

To beat it, not to solve it. Solving means something very specific in the context of games — deriving and proving a GTO strategy.

:/ Damn. That needs to cost 1000x less before people can try it on their own games.

That's an extrapolation to finish the entire game.

If limit your token count to a fraction of 2 billion tokens, you can try it on your own game, and of course have it complete a shorter fraction of the game.

Who is paying for this?

Did the streamer get subsidized by Google?

(The stream isn't run by Google themselves, is it?)

If you go to the X page linked on the blog, the page owner mentions a “collaboration” with Google Deepmind on this project. It wouldn’t shock me if this just an elaborate advertisement for Gemini.

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