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Hope this doesn't end up political... Last time the entire Framework Discord's mod team went on strike because of a controversial sponsorship, and ended with the closure of the discord.

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I hadn't heard about this before, so in case anyone else is also curious and wants to save some googling, it sounds like was a few months ago when they sponsored Hyprland[1]. I hadn't heard about controversy with Hyprland before, only being vaguely aware of it, but the forum thread I linked to further links to this blog post[2] with more details.

[1]: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-righ... [2]: https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/17/Hyprland-toxicity.html

I have more of an Issue with the Omarchy sponsorship. While i disagree with Hyprland's maintainer at least Hyprland is actually engineering something great and making it free software. Omarchy is basically just a script.

Not a fan of either but I feel obligated to point out they don't appear to be sponsoring Omarchy, they just posted about it on their social media account(s). Hyprland they actually did do a small sponsorship for.

Yeah I think there might be a mixup with Cloudflare, who are sponsoring Omarchy.

Omarchy is the passion project of a really wealthy person and is backed by his profitable business. What does ‘sponsoring Omarchy’ mean? Like.. where does that money go?

https://blog.cloudflare.com/supporting-the-future-of-the-ope...

I think it amounts to providing free premium CDN service, the stuff you'd usually have to pay for. They didn't say anything about cash money changing hands.

That’s really reasonable then (I guess apart from any disagreements with the authors views). Omarchy isn’t just a post installation script, they have the entire thing bundled as an ISO. So I can see why an in-kind sponsorship of a CDN makes sense. Although it’s still unclear to me how Omarchy specifically fits into ‘the future of the open web’ vs Ladybird

> it's just a script. ... That has brought in thousands of new users to Linux in the past couple of months.

How have your scripts done in comparison?

>ended with the closure of the discord

oh no anyways. Discord user and there mods are probably the last people anybody in the FOSS or real world should care about or associate with.

Sometimes Discord is still pretty helpful with real-time support. It indeed has its flaws, but some of the best real time help is still given there. I love the C++ discord, it's just filled with gems.

>it's just filled with gems

gems not sorted or indexed at all gated behind a account requiring personal information to just view them.

Luckily that’s a solved, or trivially-solved problem now.

how?

Select All -> Paste into local or cloud LLM -> Ask question

even if the LLM was directly trained on discord it still would not be the same and never will

The same as what?

A permalink is a permalink, whether I found it in 5 minutes to an hour,

or the robot found it in 5 seconds.

Discord is handy for real-time support as a user, but because those support questions don't become a body of searchable public knowledge over time, they are all doomed. The maintainers will burn out from the endless basic questions.

I totally see why Framework doesn't want this toxicity and flamewars.

hopefully those people already left last time

Nothing of value was lost. Discord is the worst way to engage with any kind of serious community. It's a firehose of prematurely fired off messages, badges, emojis, banners, nitro upgrades, flags. Threading sucks. Ten conversations are usually happening at once. It's like if you had a 100gig connection to the WAL of 4chan plugged directly into your brain. It's no wonder kids these days are all autistic or ADHD.

While I agree with some of the things said, the last sentence where you started to imply that neurodivergence can be caused by external factors is completely false. These are physical differences in brain's wiring.

> These are physical differences in brain's wiring.

Physical differences that no test can detect?

Not sure about autism, but ADHD is one of the most studied disorders and you can pick it up with a brain scan, like MRI and other methods (currently imaging methods aren't typically used for diagnosis but it's plausible that some day it will be)

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