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Can you get into the safety aspect?

Isn’t my employer going to see me logging in to some random service with my work account? Will the corporate Microsoft identity provider even have you in the allowlist?

Some more product focused “tough questions:”

Is this a problem you think is common?

Example A: I can just connect with everyone I know from work on LinkedIn

Example B: I avoid doing personal business on my work machine so when I am terminated I don’t lose anything

Example C: anything I know I want to keep long term I save in some way that the company can’t keep

Example D: I don’t actually want to engage in Example C because it violates company policy and nothing I do at work is worth getting sued over.

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Hey, thank you for your questions...

Q:Isn’t my employer going to see me logging in to some random service with my work account? Will the corporate Microsoft identity provider even have you in the allowlist?

- It's like having your accounts synced into Apple Mail (or some other Google app). The difference is that it organizes your contacts and keep your data stored in the cloud;

Q: I can just connect with everyone I know from work on LinkedIn

- That's for sure, but, the idea here is more a CRM than a social network;

Q: I avoid doing personal business on my work machine so when I am terminated I don’t lose anything

- But again, the idea here is to use in many different situations. For instance: you had an old domain but instead of using the Apple Mail, you used a service that store it for you in the cloud. So, you can still have access to it because the data belongs to you... but after a while you don't have the domain anymore.

Example C: anything I know I want to keep long term I save in some way that the company can’t keep

- And this is one example of how the platform is used for.

Example D: I don’t actually want to engage in Example C because it violates company policy and nothing I do at work is worth getting sued over. - The problem doesn't happen only to company emails... that was my situation with stuffs that I saved by mistake...

> It's like having your accounts synced into Apple Mail (or some other Google app). The difference is that it organizes your contacts and keep your data stored in the cloud

It's not the same, though - it's a non-standard service with the specific, stated purpose of data exfiltration.

The issue here isn't so much the fact that it keeps contacts available after the account is disabled; it's that it's the stated intent.

To put it another way - if I wanted this, why wouldn't I just sync my email via Thunderbird on a personal device?

> That's for sure, but, the idea here is more a CRM than a social network

I have something similar for myself, but it's just iCloud Contacts with lists and tags.

> The problem doesn't happen only to company emails...

I think this is your core issue - messaging. While I don't know if the problem you're trying to solve is one other people have, I do know that the value proposition of "you may lose your company email" is... well, it's clearly going to be a violation of contract at minimum for most employees, and potentially even a criminal act.

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