As an aside: if we say k8s, we should also say j8t.
As an aside: if we say k8s, we should also say j8t.
The idea that most employers make terrible decisions now, and amazing decisions back in the day, is plainly false. The author vividly recollects working at a decent Java shop. Even there I strongly doubt everything was amazing as they describe, but it sounds decent indeed. But plenty businesses at the time used C++, for no good reason other than inertia, usually in Windows-only Visual C++ 6-specific dialects. Their "build server" ran overnight, you'd check in your code in the late afternoon and get your compile errors back in the morning. The "source control" worked with company-wide file locks, and you'd get phoned your ass back to the office if you forgot to check in a file before leaving. Meanwhile, half the web was written in epic spaghetti plates of Perl. PHP was a joy to deploy, as it is now, but it was also a pain to debug.
If you care deeply about this stuff, find an employer who cares too. They existed back then and they exist now.
This. Let's keep things in perspective when people complain about long Rust compile cycles. And even that's a whole lot better than filling in paper-based FORTRAN or COBOL coding forms to be punched into cards in the computing room and getting back line-printed program output (or a compiler error) the next week.
Until you have to compile the program without prior build cache or start a build in a CI pipeline.
You are describing it: Things in programing were bad, then suddenly all in the upside UNTIL it start to coming down.
Is not a refute of the problem. Is to pick a moment were both were bad, and like all the discussions about tech, MASSIVELY ignore that MASSIVE internet with MASSIVE money with MASSIVE backing is worse than before.
Is like people complaining that pistols on the wild west kill as do nuclear weapons, ignoring the massive difference in size and blast damage
We love the idea that we don't have any agency in this field and we're constantly being pushed by the mean baddies at the top.
People would compile their local unit locally, of course (a "unit" would be a bunch of files grouped together in some hopefully-logical way). But they wouldn't be 100% sure it compiled correctly when integrated with the larger codebase until the nightly build ran. So like if you didn't change the .h files you were pretty sure to be in the clear, but if you did, you had to be careful and worse-case-scenario do a 1-day-per-step edit-compile-test loop for a week or so. I'm not entirely sure how they managed to keep these compile failures from hurting other teams, but they didn't always (I think they had some sort of a layered build server setup, not too dissimilar from how GH Actions can do nightlies of a "what if this PR were merged with main now").
Visual Studio 6 itself was pretty OK actually. Like the UI was very limited (but therefore also fast enough), but compiling smallish projects went fine. In fact it was known to be a pretty fast compiler, I didn't mean to suggest that VC++6 implies overnight builds. They just coincided. In fact better-structured big-ish C++ projects (pimpl pattern anyone?) could probably recompile pretty quickly on the computers of the day.
Linux kernel compiles in the 1990s were measured in hours, and that codebase was tiny compared to many. So, yep, builds were slow, slow enough to have an entire xkcd comic written about them.
Have you ever considered that you don’t understand why those decisions were made and that’s why you think they were made for the wrong reasons?
Javascript?
That would solve the trademark problem...
It’s that one extra spoken syllable that pushes it into k8s I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sounds like “coso” (“thingy”, mildly despective).
Clearly it’s “Kates”. Like “sk8er boy”.
Something like slurring the word “internationalization” combined with 18. “Ill-ateen-yon”
(In general I hate these numeric abbreviations, they’re terribly opaque to anyone who’s not clued in)
Most people are confused by it. When I start to explain it, I sound like a jerk who hates foreigners.
The programmers on the street point and smile at it. If they work in `l14n`, they come up and give me a hug.
But it's always Dennis.