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waymo and tesla already operate in certain areas, even if tech is ready

regulation still very much a thing

“certain areas” is a very important qualifier, though. Typically areas with very predictable weather. Not discounting the achievement just noting that we’re still far away from ubiquity.

Waymo is doing very well around San Francisco, which is certainly very challenging city driving. Yes, it doesn't snow there. Maybe areas with winter storms will never have autonomous vehicles. That doesn't mean there isn't a lot of utility created even now.

My original point, clearly badly phrased given the responses I got, is that the promises have been exceeding the reality for a decade.

Musk's claims about what Tesla's would be able to do wasn't limited to just "a few locations" it was "complete autonomy" and "you'll be able to summon your car from across the country"… by 2018.

And yet, 2025, leaves: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46095867

Leaves: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46095867

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